PCB4.5c from sivava and 0.98d5

By: EZo - 2006-02-06 12:58:33

Test results  pcb45c  with 0.98d5
PC Windows [ch1061][ch1056] , PIV 3.0GHz
-  28F320C3B, adapter T01/T07 (16bit)
0.97ja - ok , programming time 8:30 min
0.98d2- ok, programming time 6:30 min
0.98d5 -  ID fail, programming time 6:10 min, verify fail at first adress  (chip 0x8A55, buffer 0xAA55)
-  AM29LV320MB, adapter T01/T06 (8/16bit)
0.97ja - ok , programming time 37:00 min
0.98d2- ok, programming time 18:50 min (really 50% faster )
0.98d5 - ID fail, programming fail immediately (error, chip 0x8A, buffer 0xAA)

My tests were in the same HW conditions , only SW changed and jumpers for pcb3b mode for 0.97ja.
PCB4.5c has changed chip 74[ch1053][ch1057]04/14 (pcb3.7c/pcb4c) to 74[ch1053][ch1057]540 . I think there is no cause on 0.98d5 reported  20% speed-up compared to pcb4c and 0.98d2. SW may come more unstable.
Can anybody share his experience on pcb4.5c performance ?

Info about dual-power willems PCB3B...

By: Tecno - 2006-02-01 12:20:59

Some devices need higher voltages, like 16v or 21v, most power adapters only go from 3v to 12v, what I would like to know is if Dual-Power Willems could use USB power and raise it to be able to supply 16 or 21v ? Namely MCUMall PCB3B Dual-Power Version and sivava newer versions of willem programmer's ?
Does anyone know ?

Any help would be apreciated. Thanks

Cheers

P.S: I'm looking into programming/erasing(where possible...) the following eproms/eeproms: 27C256, 27C512, 27E512 and 27SF512 in DIP28

Re: 27C800

By: DL - 2006-01-27 21:14:06

Hi,

I haven't seen a sivava B12 first hand, so take this advice with a grain of salt...

I think you need to set the Normal/A18,19 jumper to A18,19.  You also need to change the bottom A19 and the pin below.  This will route A19 to pin1 on the socket and SW12 on the DIP12 switch will route A18 to pin30.  Since A19 is the highest address line used for 8Mb devices, you shouldn't need any address jumpers.

The adapter should have a jumper for VPP/A21; it should be set to VPP until you get to 32Mb devices.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: 27C800

By: Edoardo80 - 2006-01-27 19:56:04

I have Willem Programmer version 4.5.

On the B12 adapter there are 8 pins strip line.
On the programmer, instead, there are 7 pins stript line.
With adapter, sivava gave me a cable adapter that I didn't use!

I completely insert the 27C800 chip in the 42 pins hoof!

Thanks for you time!

27C800

By: Edoardo80 - 2006-01-27 13:27:16

I have this chip and I don't be able to program it!
In particular when I program it, the software give me an error
in a casual location. When I put an offset > than above location,
after a little bit (about some second), the software give me an other error
in another casual location.

1) I have erased the chip very well (I have also a 27C256 chip and it works perfectly).
2) I have tha Willem programmer version 4.5 and the B12 adapter from sivava.com!
3) The red dip switch:   1>off 2>off 3>off 4>on

In B12 adapter, the serigraphy on the PCB indicate that the 27C400 and 27C800 chips
must be put from 3 pin! ( english    )
Is it right?


Very thanks!

M28W160BB

By: Edoardo80 - 2006-01-24 18:45:08

I have this chip and I don't be able to program it!
I have tha Willem programmer version 4.5 and the T10 set of adapters
from sivava.com!
Which are the setting of the willem eprom software (097ja) ?

Very thanks and sorry for my bad English!

Re: TSOP48 Adabter

By: EZo - 2006-01-20 18:18:06

You can program tsop48 16 bit flash on ezoflash+ and tsop48d1/d2. Docs in ezoflash page and EZo downloads.
You can adapt schematic for pcb3 or buy ready T01/T07 adapter from sivava

Re: DONT PROGRAMMING  MX 29F400 / PCB sivava

By: Bianconi - 2006-01-19 09:11:47

Hi
The chip is new .
Mensage error = ERASE ERROR CHECK DQ6 AND DQ7 .
I selected in DEVICE 16 bits MX 29F100 (he requires to adapter Tsop 48) Its OK ?
Thank You
Bianconi

Re: DONT PROGRAMMING  MX 29F400 / PCB sivava

By: EZo - 2006-01-12 08:55:42

Quote:
But I am not obtaining to erase Chip MX 29F400 tsop 48, the time is long excessively and of the error message.   

Are you getting valid ID response ?
What is error message ?
Run read and look in buffer. Find unerased area (all chip, sector), chip protected with unerased sector in beginning or at top..
Quote:
.. and configure correctly vpp.

Programmer Vpp =12.7 is used only to switch high/low byte on chip.
Protected chip cannot be erased and programmed on 16 bit adapter, no temporary sector unprotection option (Vpp on RST).

DONT PROGRAMMING  MX 29F400 / PCB sivava

By: Bianconi - 2006-01-12 07:03:55

MX 29F400 = TSOP 48 = HELP !!!!!!!!
Bianconi




I love YaBB 1G -
SP1!

MX 29F400 = TSOP 48 = HELP !!!!!!!!
     
Hello Friends
I work with the PCB 3B/SIVAVA, ok.   

But I am not obtaining to erase Chip MX 29F400 tsop 48, the time is long excessively and of the error message.
Adapter Tsop 48 16bit and Adapter Socket Tsop 48

I select Flash 16 bits LV   for 29F400 and configure correctly vpp. I tried with the   SST 39LF400 and nothing to erase. Please me they help.

Thank 's   
Herber Bianconi

Re: Whenever I read the chip gives a different che

By: RodrigoG - 2006-01-02 14:17:22

This adapter will work for the PLCC32 27C512?  

http://www.sivava.com/image_B02.htm

Re: TE28F160C3T programming.help!!

By: backbiter17 - 2005-12-29 15:14:02

no problem with this chip  using enhanced willem & sivava tsop kit
as Ezo said check ALL pins of the chip, make shoure they are clean, not twisted
br, ales

Re: TE28F160C3T programming.help!!

By: EZo - 2005-12-29 14:53:19

Are the adapters T01/T07 from sivava ?
Check chip contacts . There schould be chip ID response correct !!
That's can be reason on 0% programming .
Did you remove jumper "open 3.6V" ?

copy from a MX29LV160ABTC to MX29LV160BTC  !

By: clemaq - 2005-12-19 18:18:00

Hello

Well, I Have a problem with ZYXEL Prestige 645 DSL Modem , thats have a Reboot looping Problem!
This poblem is solved by reprogramming the TSOP EPROM.
This Tsop is 48P ( MX29LV160BTC).  
For do it, I use the Willem Eprom Programmer 3.1 ATH + sivava TSOP Kit .
To recovery, I used another Zyxel 645 ( thats OK), and remove the TSOP chip ( MX29LV160ABTC).
My objective is copy to one from another, using the  programmer + EP 0.97ja .
I put the Chip into Willem, using the tsop socket and TSOP16 Interface , but the willem don 't identify  the chip.  I try more 3 times and have the same problem - ID chip is [---] !
I change the interface TSOP16 by TSOP8/16 .  The willem Eprom identify the chip right !  At the momment, I only Read the chip to file ( about 2mb Bin).  After this, I remove the Chip and put the another, to write it.
After all process, i ressold the chip on PCB and turn on the modem - But, is not work !  
I ressold the chip thats i copy on modem thats ok, but after this, the moden doesn 't work.
Now, I have two modens with the same problem -  I thinks thats firm are corrupted when I try to ID the CHIP using a Wrong interface.

Somebody  have the same problem on TSOP ?

Somebody  have the bin File Image from ZYXEL P645 R ?

Thanks

Fujitsu 29DL323T (x16) on Willem 3.1ATH + TSOP48

By: clemaq - 2005-12-15 13:17:14

Hello

Well, I need to Write/Erase the TSOP48 Chip (Fujitsu 29DL323T x16) thats used on 3COM 812 Office Connect  ADSL Router.  

For This , I have the sivava TSOP Kit !!  I think to use TSOP48 (16bits ) interface to do it.
But I don 't know what  is the jumper config(28Fx00 / 29Fx00 / 3V6) for it , on Interface and what chip is compatible on EPROM PROGRAMMER 0,97JA to do it.


Re: SST 39VF010  - TSOP32 1MB

By: clemaq - 2005-12-13 12:53:56

Thanks Ales

Well, I Test all pin and i don 't find any short !
I use a Multi Test for it and test pin by pin on TSOP Chip.
I solding it on TSOP48 Adaptor and connect on TSOP32 interface.
This interface is very simple - Its have a Jumper (opem=3v6) I try in short and open, but the eprom is not identofy by program 97ja.
The chip is in correct position  ( PCB pin 1 is in left side and the Pin 1 in TSOP Chip is in Circle Mark, and both pin are  in the same side - left).

Its the first time that i used this adaptor Kit -  I live in Brazil and here is more expensive (about U$250) to buy it.  After search in any place, i found a forum post,  from a brazilian body, thats shipping in sivava hp. I make the same think !  After  2 weeks , i receive it. Now, i buy another EPROM Programmer PCB - the  new Willem 4.5 !  Its delivery only in January.

In this momment, I only have my old Willem 3.1 ATH for it !

I don 't know if the TSOP chip is Bad !  
This TSOP Chip is from a DEAD Linksys WET11 - only turn on the power ligth.  Net or another functions is off (DEAD).

Weird Vcc and Vpp voltages, plus PSOP44 problems

By: miksuh80 - 2005-12-13 12:27:28

I have just aquired Dual Powered willem based board (PCB4B or something) from #/&&/%#Sivava, and i think that was just first and last mistake.

Anyway, i tried to read AMD Am29F200BB chip, and it seemed to work ok, ID did read ok, and actual chip, verified ok.

I thought that this is good. i repeated this 10 times and 8 times of 10, verified was ok, but 2 times not. I tried to burn readed chip, and put it back, and no luck, nothing. I started to try HW tests, and my Vpp was actually 18,4v is it should be 12,5v? And Vcc 6,14v as it should be 5v. I did use USB and DC-jack to power board and same thing happended both cases.

Manual says: Dc-power 9VDC or 12 VDC, but those are not real things. Actually Vcc and Vpp are correct when you use about 13,5voltage DC. Why diffrent input voltage changes Vcc and Vpp, is this just bad desing?

To my first question: Is my reading bad, because voltages were too high? I have now no means to verify it, because i dont have original chip anymore. It seems to be ok, as i have 8 versions of same read? Or is it busted?

Second guestion: what is the deal with these voltages? Can i operate it with 13,5v DC and it would work fine...? I suppose not? Is there anything that can be done with this board?

Thanks for advance

Re: SST 39VF010  - TSOP32 1MB

By: clemaq - 2005-12-13 01:47:08

Hello

Thanks for Help !
I find it on Eprom Programmer 0,97ja, but I have another problem - I don't ID the chip, Read, erase and write it !!!

I use the sivava TSOP KIT - Inteface TSOP32 / Interface Tsop40A, Interface Tsop40B, Interface TSOP48 (8/16), ZIF adaptor (32/40/48) and TSOP48 pcb adaptor for it.
Because the size of TSOP32, i don't use the ZIF  adaptor! I use the TSOP48 PCB adaptor and soldering the chip into PCB. I use this PCB with Tsop32 interface.
After connect the chip into pcb and the pcb into interface,  I put the interfece on EPROM Programmer Willem 3.1ATH 27/2/2003.  
I set the  EP 0,97ja to this chip, but when i try to ID, I only see [---] in ID tag.

I try to write , but the EP 0,97ja show me a error
I try to read - Its only that function very well, for me - its don't show any error
I try to erase -  Time Out

I don't know if is the chip or adaptor thats have problem...

somebody have this TSOP kit (sold by sivava) , to help me on identify, erase and write into this chip ???

How connect TSOP KIT on Willem PCB 3.1ATH

By: clemaq - 2005-12-09 19:15:19

Hello

I need some help to make a correct cable to use the sivava (http://www.sivava.com/Product_T.htm) TSOP Adaptor Kit  into  Willem 3.1ATH 27/2/2003.  The Pinout on the Adaptor is for New Willem EPROM, because my 3.1ATH doesn 't have A23 , CK.  


On my Willem EPROM PRG,  I have the  header 7 Pin (A18, NC, A19, A19, A20, A21, A22).

On sivava TSOP Kit , I have 8 header pin (CK, A19, A22, A21, A20, P1, A19, A23)

I think to make the cable Like it :

Willem      Tsop interface
A18               NC
NC                NC
A19               ???  I don 't know if is A19 after CK or A19 After P1
A19               ???  I don 't know if is A19 after CK or A19 After P1
A20               A20
A21               A21
A22               A22
A23               NC
 

Well, I need some help with A19 Pins to connect on TSOP

Willem  3.1ATH 27/2/2003 with sivava TSOP KIT

By: clemaq - 2005-12-09 19:03:16

Hello

I need some help to make a correct cable to use the sivava (http://www.sivava.com/Product_T.htm) TSOP Adaptor Kit over Willem 3.1ATH 27/2/2003.

On my Willem EPROM PRG,  I have the  header 7 Pin (A18, NC, A19, A19, A20, A21, A22).

On sivava TSOP Kit , I have 8 header pin (CK, A19, A22, A21, A20, P1, A19, A23)

I think to make the cable Like it :

Willem      Tsop interface
A18               NC
NC                NC
A19               ???  I don 't know if is A19 after CK or A19 After P1
A19               ???  I don 't know if is A19 after CK or A19 After P1
A20               A20
A21               A21
A22               A22
A23               NC


Well, I need some help with A19 Pins to connect on TSOP

Re: AT 49F002T  &  AT29C040   Which is ADAPTER ???

By: Bianconi - 2005-12-05 05:22:28

Thanks to request, ok adapter Tsop 32 .But Programmer PCB 3.5 / sivava  is using Tsop 48 LD Socket (A) (T01) + Adapter Tsop 32 (T04) .
Is it correcty ?    Please it indicates me if he is nescessary  to jumper to voltage ?
Thank you.
Bianconi

AT 49F002T  &  AT29C040   Which is ADAPTER ???

By: Bianconi - 2005-12-04 18:06:07

Hello Friends
Which is the adapter to be used. AT 49F002T (TSOP 32) & AT 29C040 (TSOP 32)   ???

I work with the PCB 3B/SIVAVA, OK.

Thank 's

Herber Bianconi

Re: SST 49LF003A  

By: freak - 2005-11-20 19:53:22

Dear
HTH, Dennis
do u want me to send u chematic image  that i got from sivava? &if yes how can i send it to u?

Re: SST 49LF003A  

By: DL - 2005-11-20 04:13:57

Hi,

We don't have any information on PCB4C.  Check your documentation or Sivava.com.  When you find out, post info here for others to benefit.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: NEWBIE Identifying Chips!

By: DL - 2005-11-19 13:24:03

Hi,

You need to use the FWH/LPC socket.   You may also need to increase the R/C delay value to get a proper ID.   You need to get a proper ID before trying to read or program.

The W49V002 is a low voltage (3.3V) device.   There is no information available on whether your board supports LV devices.   VCC(abs max) is 4.1V, so applying 5V is likely to damage your part.  At the very minimum, it will decrease the lifetime of the device by accelerating oxide wearout...

Please post any info you have/learn with this design so others can learn (Sivava is not helpful; I've asked)...

HTH,
Dennis

Re: SST 49LF003A  

By: DL - 2005-11-06 16:32:48

Hi,

There isn't much publicly available information for your board, so it's difficult for us to support it.  Please post anything you have...

Which socket are you using?  The SST49LF003 supports both FWH/LPC and regular interfaces, but it's programmed with the LPC interface.  I don't have 0.89d2, so can't check...

If you can't get it to work, try sivava for help.

HTH,
Dennis

097 or 098 SW?

By: dronzin - 2005-10-30 15:57:12

I have PCB3B ,and I intend to program TSSOP48 28,29 and 39 series.Ive bought sivava T01 ,T07 and T08 adapters and i'd like to know if The PCB3B works with 098 SW ,or only PCB35 ,and what is the difference between these two versions? Thanks!

Re: USB powered programer prob's

By: backbiter17 - 2005-10-26 16:35:01

hi,
have same  similar programmer from mcumall not sivava(http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_dynamicIndex.asp)
im running SW ver 97ja $ 97G on win xp pro SP1 with no problems
br, ales

Re: USB powered programer prob's

By: DL - 2005-10-25 21:53:50

Hi,

Try using version 0.97ja and deleting the port95nt files.   I can run 0.97ja on an XP Pro machine.   I don't have a parallel port, so can't do anything else...   I get access violations with 0.97g too.   I never bothered debugging because I use my programmers on either WinME or Win98 machines.

I don't think sivava sells the programmer you referenced.   If that's the one you bought, you have my condolences.   You'll find it less than desireable for programming EPROMs.   I think they mention on the mcumall.com website that that programmer is more suitable for FLASH devices.   Marginal for CMOS EPROMs because you have no VCC options.   Completely busted for NMOS EPROMs.

There was someone a few weeks (months?) ago who was trying to split a word-wide data file into odd and even bytes.   I think I wrote a program to do this for him.   Try searching old posts.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Help! Willem PCB45 ->Pm49FL004T-33JC

By: EZo - 2005-10-20 14:54:58

Is the FWH/LPC socket used ? sivava has programmer version pcb4c.
Set jumper pcb3/pcb3.5 according to used SW (pcb3.5 for 0.98dx, pcb3 for 0.97ja).
You can't speak on correct erase and read without valid ID response.
We can't provide more details on   HW pcb4c and SW 0.98dx, access and changes are not public from author's side.   Ask supplier sivava

Re: Help! Willem PCB45 ->Pm49FL004T-33JC

By: DL - 2005-10-20 14:45:49

Hi,

Did sivava send you here?  They won't provide me with any documentation or information on their design and I've asked them not to send people here unless they'll provide information needed to support their design.

Did you mean PCB4C?  I thought that was their latest design and I'm not aware of a PCB45 design.

Are you using the FWH/LPC socket?  Your device is a low voltage device, 3.0-3.6V.  I don't know if your board has low voltage options and can't tell you how to set them if it does.  You could try running with VCC=5V, but you risk damaging your device.  Boards that don't have low voltage options use adapters that have diodes to reduce VCC.  This isn't a good design, but it's what people did.  Most devices specify that no input signal should be more than 0.5-0.7V above VCC.  This is to avoid damaging the protection diodes on all of the inputs.  Adapters that use 2 diodes to reduce VCC create an overdrive situation on all input signals that can damage the device being programmed.  The programmer logic will have their outputs clamped to ~4.3V, but they can probably tolerate that.  The parallel to serial device (CD4014/CD4021) will probably read the data correctly if the device being read/programmed switches rail-to-rail.  Pull-up's on the inputs to the shift register would make reading more robust.

Do us and other PCB4C users a favor and post information about your programmer's capabilities.

HTH,
Dennis

Help! Willem PCB45 ->Pm49FL004T-33JC

By: j_gabor - 2005-10-20 13:27:18

Hi all!

I'm a realy new here. Yesterday recieved my brand new programmer from Sivava.
The board is PCB45. Now I want to try repair my defect ASUS P4PE-X BIOS
The chip is PMC Pm49FL002T-33JC.  Program version: 0.98D5
I can erase, read it. But I can't programming the chip.
Error message is: Error at 0x000000 Chip = 0xFF buffer = 0x94
When I clik on the ID I get exactly this :
Manufacture: 0xFF  
Device code: 0xFF

Please help me, what is the problem.

Re: latest hardware version

By: DL - 2005-10-18 15:05:45

Hi,jalalnuri wrote on 10/18/05 at 07:33:11:
thanks a lot ez
you say:
Exist HW update from sivava- pcb3b/3.5 and pcb4c with own SW 0.98dx, no particular info on updates and advantages. 0.98dx supported chip list has extended PIC range.
please say me :
does ver .97ja sw supports all other hw?
As EZo said, we don't have information on some of the latest designs (pcb3.7, pcb4c) that use 0.98x versions of the program.   Documentation isn't available (even if you buy a board) and I'm not inclined to buy one of every board so I can provide free customer support for everyone selling programmers.

Some of those designs (e.g. pcb3.5) have a jumper to make them compatible with the 0.97 versions.   If some of the newer programmers don't have that option, they might not be compatible with the older 0.97 versions.   The people designing boards that use 0.98 are intentionally diverging from the older hardware/software and don't intend for people with the open designs to benefit from the improvements and added device support.   If you want to use 0.97, stick with one of the older compatible designs.   If you want to use 0.98, buy one of the pcb3.5 or pcb4c designs.   Just be aware that, while this board tries to support all programmers, there's a limit to what we can do if the people who manufacture those designs won't make documentation available.   I already have 5 different "Willem" programmers and don't care to buy anymore...

HTH,
Dennis

Re: latest hardware version

By: jalalnuri - 2005-10-18 07:33:11

thanks a lot ez
you say:
Exist HW update from sivava- pcb3b/3.5 and pcb4c with own SW 0.98dx, no particular info on updates and advantages. 0.98dx supported chip list has extended PIC range.
please say me :
does ver .97ja sw supports all other hw?

Re: latest hardware version

By: EZo - 2005-10-17 09:42:54

We can't speak on latest HW version
Exist lot of variants with differencies in - built-in sockets, 3.3/5.0/6.0V board support, extra or limited chip support, powering (DC or/and USB), Vpp providing.
w4.5 - built in dip32, plcc32, tsop48 (8/16flash), 3.3/5V , no PIC/serial
ezo- own adapters, 3.3/5V, no PIC/serial
pcb3b - built in dip32 (include dip24 eprom, 28F001 support), serial/PIC, 5.0/6.0V, 2 diods on adapters required for 3.3V chip support.
w4.0 - built in dip32, plcc32, plcc32(fwh/lpc), serial/PIC; 3.3/5.0/6.0V
Common latest SW version 0.97ja.
Exist HW update from sivava- pcb3b/3.5 and pcb4c with own SW 0.98dx, no particular info on updates and advantages. 0.98dx supported chip list has extended PIC range.
I'll try provide programmer overview with pictures.

Re: About eprom programmer 4.5

By: EZo - 2005-10-17 09:03:22

Have a interess on flash memory only (your list) ,   take a look on  ezoflash+. Design is DIY with mimimum of expenses, you fill find doc's on all adapters . Some chips/package are supported exclusively on ezoflash+   , no equal adapters for willem/pcb3b today.
Adapters for W4.5 (willem/pcb3b series) are less documented, available comercially from different shops (willem, sivava, gotronik,...)

Re: programmer history

By: Tecno - 2005-10-16 21:34:46

This is very interesting, I like to know these stories !

So your the inventer / true first developer of this kind of programmers that now everyone seams to copy, and all have their versions, I by myself have seen plenty:
- Mcumall
- Sivava
- Timpark
- Silvotronic
- Ezo
- etc...

In your oppinion, without being biased, and analising the links below, which one is the best from the following, and why:
- Willem V4.0
- Willem PCB4C from Sivava
- Silvotronic PCB3B v5.0
- Standard (Dual-Power) Willem Programmer from Anyway Technology

Also, I would like to know if the newer software versions are compatible with your hardware versions 4 and 4.5 ?

Cheers

programmer history

By: Tecno - 2005-10-16 13:19:12

Hi, I just ordered a Willem v4.0 here from the site, but I got some questions:

All the lookalike programmers out there call themselfs "Willem", but this is www.willem.org and the person selling the programmers here is Willem also, so I wonder, who invented this kind of programmers ?

The guy at sivava has one new programmer also and even newer software than the one posted here in the site, so who is developing his programmer and software ?

Why haven't there been no updates for the last one year or so, for the software for this site's Willem   programmers (4.0 and 4.5) ? When there are for other similar programmers ?

Wich "Willem" programmer supports more devices and adapters ?

Who really invented the willem programmer ? Is there any story for it ?

If someone could enlighten me, I would be grateful !

Thanks

Can I program these chips??

By: RobotCheese - 2005-10-14 21:59:49

I don't really know what I'm doing but I want to program:

PIC 16F628
EPROM 27c801 DIP

Will the dual-power Universal Willem Programmer do the job? Would I need any adapters?

http://www.sivava.com/Product_A02.htm

Thanks, I don't know where to else to get help on this so I am asking here.

Erase/program Intel TE28F160C3B - Help!

By: omholt - 2005-10-10 20:33:31

I cannot erase or program Intel TE28F160C3B flash. The chip ID reads ok and I can read the flash but when I try to program and erease the percentage reads 0% forever...

Hardware: Willem PCB3B, sivava T01/T07, 0,97ja

The jumpers are set as guided in SW and on adapter.

Any tips from anyone?

Siava T07 jumpers - help

By: omholt - 2005-10-10 17:20:43

I have a sivava T01/T07 16 bit adapter for flashing Intel TE28f160. There are a group of jumper to set like the picture on the adapter but the upper right jumper are not shown...what is it for and how to set it?

Re: Please help me choose a programmer for my need

By: DL - 2005-10-09 00:55:53

Hi,
Tecno wrote on 10/08/05 at 23:24:59:
Thank you very much for your reply, it was most useful, and very complete !

I still have some questions, from what I understand of your oppinion, the Willem programmer 4.0 here is better than the sivava PCB4C right ?
I'm not sure how the PCB4C compares to the Willem 4.0.  I inquired about documentation and was only told that it was different and that it couldn't be compared to other Willem programmers.
Quote:
That was one of the other programmers I was thinking of, because of the USB power...
USB power isn't really a good thing.  You can't have VCC options, so VCC can only be less than 5V (USB specs it nominally at 5V, but you'll always have voltage drop in the VDDp transistor switch).  With others, you can modify them to give more VCC options.  This is particularly important when using EPROMs.
Quote:
Was that the one you were refering when you said: "Stay away from any board powered only by USB.   You have no VCC options and the one I'm thinking of doesn't work for DIP24 parts (even though it says it does)" ? It also has a normal power adapter I think, not just USB power, what other differences are there ? Because the price difference is still considerable.
No.  The board I was referring to is sold on mcumall.com.  For both designs, no schematics or component diagrams are available.  This is a deal breaker for me because the boards are difficult to support without them.  There is a significant price difference, but you know what they say...
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I was also wondering, if I don't buy the metal box for this programmer, will it come with some back side protector ? Like to avoid shot-circuits and so ?
I haven't had any concerns about shorting anything with any of my programmers (I have 5 different Willem based boards).  If you're really concerned about that, you can buy a piece of plexiglass and make your own.  Willem does have a metal case for the 4.0 board, but you need to mount tall devices on the solder side, can't have the CMOS logic chips in sockets, need to use a female DB25 connector on the board, and need to use a male-male parallel cable.
Quote:
P.S: Is there a big difference between the Zero Insertion Force and the normal socket version of the v4.0 Willem programmer ? I'm asking, because of the big price difference, is it much more dificult to insert/remove the eprom you want to program/read/erase ? Or is the the same ammount of force that is used to put a "chip" in a normal machined socket ?   (sounds a little like a newbie question, I'm almost sure I know the answer, but just checking... )
The ZIF socket is really zero insertion force.  It's the only way to go if you're going to be doing many insert/remove operations.  If you buy a board/kit without a ZIF, you'll probably get a dual/single wipe socket - the ZIF sockets won't fit in a machined pin socket.  When I assemble boards, I use a female header strip for the socket to make it easier to insert a ZIF socket.  If you apply too much force to the pins on the ZIF socket when trying to insert it in a regular socket, you can break some contacts.  Don't ask me how I know...  I wouldn't consider using any of my programmers without a ZIF socket.  You could look for a less expensive brand or look for a used one.  I sell used ones for around $5 when I have them.  There are several varieties:  gold contacts, tin contacts, wide pins (compatible with 300mil packages), screw close vs. lever, etc.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Please help me choose a programmer for my need

By: Tecno - 2005-10-08 23:24:59

Thank you very much for your reply, it was most useful, and very complete !

I still have some questions, from what I understand of your oppinion, the Willem programmer 4.0 here is better than the sivava PCB4C right ? That was one of the other programmers I was thinking of, because of the USB power... Was that the one you were refering when you said: "Stay away from any board powered only by USB.   You have no VCC options and the one I'm thinking of doesn't work for DIP24 parts (even though it says it does)" ? It also has a normal power adapter I think, not just USB power, what other differences are there ? Because the price difference is still considerable.

I was also wondering, if I don't buy the metal box for this programmer, will it come with some back side protector ? Like to avoid shot-circuits and so ?

Like this:

"The back of the circuit board is covered by a plastic board that is neat and protects board from short circuiting"
   ?


Please answer these questions and thank you again !

Cheers


P.S: Is there a big difference between the Zero Insertion Force and the normal socket version of the v4.0 Willem programmer ? I'm asking, because of the big price difference, is it much more dificult to insert/remove the eprom you want to program/read/erase ? Or is the the same ammount of force that is used to put a "chip" in a normal machined socket ?   (sounds a little like a newbie question, I'm almost sure I know the answer, but just checking... )

Re: Please help me choose a programmer for my need

By: DL - 2005-10-08 22:18:14

Hi,

The Willem 4.0 board will support both devices.  The 4.5 board doesn't support 27SF* erase; that device is actually a FLASH device masquerading as an EPROM.

If you plan to program TSOP48 devices, the choice becomes a little more difficult.  TSOP48 adapters are fairly expensive - the socket alone is around US$20-25.  Both boards will have problems with NMOS EPROMs.  VCC will drop too low for you to create reliable parts (but all designs have this limitation because the transistors used to switch VDDp can't handle that much current).  Many boards are easy to modify (add a relay in parallel with the transistor) to fix the voltage drop.  I have a relay/regulator modification board that can be installed on the 4.0 and 4.5 boards; requires 2 new holes between the regulators and a few wires.  No traces are cut (if you're careful), so the board can be restored to it's original configuration if desired.  I put a jumper on the relay circuit so it can be disabled (I do this for FWH devices) or forced on if the slowness of the relay is found to be an issue.  Without the relay modification, voltage drops in the VDDp transistor are on the order of 1-2V, depending on the transistor used.  After the relay mod, voltage drop is on the order of 10-30mV.

There are other less expensive options, but be careful if you go that route.  Stay away from any board powered only by USB.  You have no VCC options and the one I'm thinking of doesn't work for DIP24 parts (even though it says it does).  If you go with a dual powered board, use the AC/DC power option; it will give you at least one VCC option.  I don't like these because they use a step-up regulator and it can cause difficult to troubleshoot problems if VPP drops at the wrong time.

If you haven't programmed EPROMs before, you should blank verify at 50mV below VCC min (this would be 4.45V or 4.70V, depending on whether VCC tolerance is 10% or 5%).  This will ensure that you have sufficient erase margin to read unprogrammed bits as unprogrammed over the full VCC range.  Similarly, you should program and verify at VCC=6V to ensure sufficient program margin (the ability to read programmed bits as programmed over the full VCC range).

VCC regulation and margin are also issues in early FLASH devices.  Later FLASH devices are designed to not be influenced as much by VCC fluctuations, but I've heard that the AT49LV1614 is sensitive to VCC variations.

For low voltage devices, the Willem 4.0 and 4.5 are the best I've seen.  They can generate precise voltages.  Other boards use diodes to drop voltage.  Since diodes have non-linear voltage drops, this isn't a good design choice.  I don't know how the sivava PCB4C implements low voltage support.  One potential problem with the low voltage options on the 4.0 and 4.5 boards is some laptop chipsets don't seem to support low voltage signals (I had one).  I'm working on a level shifter to fix that problem.

27C512 are UV erase, so you need a UV eraser.  There are plans for a DIY eraser in the downloads link at the left.  Otherwise, you can get them on eBay for $30+ for one that will do a dozen or so devices at a time.  New would run $100+.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Can not erase or program TE28F160/TE28F800

By: omholt - 2005-10-08 19:30:41

EZo wrote on 09/19/05 at 07:53:22:
Seems you have 16 bit chips TE28F160/800 B3/C3. 16 bit flash adapter required, only sivava provide it (T01/T07) for pcb3b


How shall i set the jumpers? I've set them like the picture for 28fx00 but there are one jumper that isn't explained... What does it do and how to set it right for my chip? And how do i set the jumpers on my willem that isnt explained in the program?

Re: Am29F032

By: backbiter17 - 2005-10-04 17:08:08

for adapters you can try
www.sivava.com
br,ales

Re: Problem programming AM29F400BB

By: EZo - 2005-10-03 13:49:11

Quote:
error - Error at 0x000000 Chip = 0x00 buffer 0xFA

Erase chip before write.
Quote:
I have the PCB4C Willem type dual power board.
Running software version 0.98D4

We can't provide details on mentioned HW and SW, access and changes are not public. Ask supplier www.sivava.com

Re: Can program 27C256 DIL28 but not PLCC32

By: DL - 2005-09-28 18:35:07

Hi Andy,
kwakman wrote on 09/28/05 at 17:37:16:
Hi Dennis,

I was thinking more of a DIL28 to PLCC32 adaptor, does anyone aroung here produce them or would I have to make my own?
Willem has an adapter in the shop.   You can also get them from sivava or Mcumall.   There may be plans in the downloads link at the left.

Quote:
Point taken about the ECU. The particular ECU I'm working with is located in the cabin rather than the engine bay so the environment isnt too harsh, but I am concerned about noise on the supply rail. I've tested my current design programmed with that board in a motorsport environment in the UK ok, but any tricks to make it more reliable are very welcome!
You could rig up something to connect the USB port on your programmer to a variable DC power supply.   Test your EPROM at VCC=4.45V and 5.55V.   You probably need to short the VDDp transistor to avoid it's voltage drop or you can increase VCC to compensate.   If the code reads back correctly at high and low VCC, that's one less thing to worry about.   For a little extra margin, you could program and verify at VCC=6V.

Quote:
Good to see a wealth of knowledge on here, what prebuilt board could I get that would accept your reg? Maybe that would be the most robust solution.
My relay/regulator modification fits in the place of the existing regulators on the Willem 4.0 and 4.5 boards (it's a tight fit).   It requires two new holes and about 3 wires.  I've also installed it on an ATH3.1SS.  It needs an adapter to fit PCB3 boards.  I'm working on a "swizzle" board now for my PCB3.  For that board, the step-up regulator circuitry can be left in place, but the IC needs to be removed.  Same procedure for dual powered boards, but the USB power option needs to be disabled.  On PCB3 designs, there are usually some extraneous dropping diodes that also need to be removed.

In addition to the relay for VDDp (which reduces the voltage drop to 10-20mV vs. 100's of mV without), it gives 2 fixed and one variable options for VCC and VPP.   I usually set the fixed VPP options to 12.5V and 21V, the variable option gives 2.5-26V.   For VCC, I set one to 5.0V and the other is user selectable, the variable option gives 2.5-7V.   I have an add-on board that gives up to 6 more VCC options for cases where 3 isn't enough.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Can program 27C256 DIL28 but not PLCC32

By: DL - 2005-09-28 17:18:14

Hi Andy,

That's the latest sivava design.   We're still trying to figure out what makes it different than the original Willem-based designs.   That board uses different software for the extra functionality.   Support for that board has been spotty.   Several people have come to this board for help (Sivava sent them), but sivava won't give me any info to support them...

I'd be more than happy to sell you one of my homebrew relay/regulator boards, but I'm not sure you'll be successful in wiring it to your board.   The power routing/switching for DIP32 and DIP28 should be the similar to other Willem programmers (because they still use the DIP12 switch to get power to pin30), but I don't want to start hacking my board before I know what my chances for success are (that design uses way too many signal diodes and is a very cramped design).   But, aside from the design flaws, it's a nice looking board...

Be careful with your ECU applications.   The environment under the hood can be pretty harsh.   You have temperature extremes and many potential sources of electrical noise.   If you get noise on VCC, it could easily exceed 5.5V (briefly) and you can't guarantee that your code will even read correctly at high VCC conditions.   I'd be glad to do some reliability testing on your programmed devices (I'll test them at nominal, min, and max VCC and 50mV above and below min/max).   This will give you a better chance of not having driveability problems related to the code not being read correctly.   If you were really paranoid, you'd use industrial temperature range parts.   That's what ECU's should specify, but I'm using commercial temp rating in my ECU (we don't get real high or low temps here...).

HTH,
Dennis

newbie- help please!

By: Papak_the_Papcina - 2005-09-24 18:25:09

hi there guys!

I have huge problems... I bought an willem programmer... it is like this http://www.sivava.com/images-A/PCB35-big.jpg except it doesn't have the USB and the ZIf socket...
anyway, I am total newbie with willem... so, I have an Winbond W29C020C-90B BIOS chip (from an motherboard).... I set the dip swicthes and the vpp as shown in the program, I read a new .bin file and I start programming it in the chip but then I get error: write sector 0 or error at 0x00000 bla bla bla...
depends..... what is wrong? please help me, because I am trying to burn the chip for the 2nd day now...
please... I am using the latest willem program, the ja one

ty

cu

Re: Can not erase or program TE28F160/TE28F800

By: EZo - 2005-09-19 07:53:22

Seems you have 16 bit chips TE28F160/800 B3/C3. 16 bit flash adapter required, only sivava provide it (T01/T07) for pcb3b

Re: Trying to read (and program) M27W512....

By: DL - 2005-09-16 19:09:13

Hi Bernie,

Can you post a picture of your board so I know which board you're referring to?  These are hobbyist programmers and there isn't a lot of detailed documentation.

Did you know that most EPROMs in PLCC32 and PDIP (Plastic DIP with no window) are OTP (One Time Program)?  You can actually program them many times, but you can't change any programmed bits to unprogrammed.  If you get 28*, 29*, 39*, 49* parts, they'll be electrically eraseable.  Some EPROMs, like 27SF512, are actually FLASH devices masquerading as EPROMs.

I saw a programmer with an on-board PLCC32-DIP28 socket; can't remember where I saw it...

sivava.com has a PLCC32-DIP28 adapter for $3.50 plus s/h.  That's a pretty good price.

Some boards also have a FWH/LPC socket on-board.  They're not interchangeable so you need to know which to use (some boards have all three).

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Does Latest software 0.97ja work with Enhanced

By: DL - 2005-09-11 15:22:55

Hi,NewUser wrote on 09/11/05 at 09:55:30:
This certainly is good support , that alone is an offer I can't refuse.    Smiley
(I hope it's as good, AFTER the sale)
What makes this board different from others is the amount of participation by people who are willing to take the time to help others with similar interests.   I think this is the most active board and there's a lot of collective knowledge.   Even places like sivava send their customers here.   Willem's mission statement for this board says the intent is to support all boards.   Some are easier to do than others because they make schematic and component diagrams available.   Some don't, so whatever you buy - watch out for them; especially any programmers with part numbers sanded off (like the enhanced universal USB-only powered programmer with push button switches for power and chip selection from mcumall - good idea and nice looking design, but it doesn't work for many devices it says it supports).   There are many derivatives of Willem's original work.   Some are clearly better than others.   Some are clearly worse than others.   I use my Willem 4.0 board almost exclusively.
Quote:
... you said something I'm a bit concerned about though ...

"...You can build adapters for all devices that support an 8 bit mode..."

does this mean both the 4.0 & 4.5 boards can't do 16 bit devices, even with adapters for either one?
Cause I do plan on using some chips that support 16 bit too ... like the MT28F800B1 ... which supports both
8 & 16 bit writing/reading modes. ... so if I understand correctly, both programmers (4.0 & 4.5) will ONLY support
the 8 bit mode of this chip, or chips similar to it? (I hope I'm wrong)   
I haven't had any need to use devices that are only word wide (16 bits).   I believe EZo has developed some adapters for his EZoflash+ DIY board and those adapters can be modified for use on other programmers because the underlying hardware is the same.   If I was going to do this, I'd create an adapter to convert DIP32 to the 32pin header connector EZo uses.   That way I could use his artwork as drawn.
Quote:
At the moment, I have to purchase a board for my immediate needs, the FWH/BIOS chip, but I would like to get
a programmer that's the MOST expandable for future use as well ...
what can I say, I want to eat my cake , and have it too.
(or is it..., have my cake and eat it too ...    ... Hmmmm    )
These are hobbyist programmers and you can do just about anything you want.   It just depends on your skills and how creative you are.   I designed the relay modification to workaround a voltage drop problem that affects all of the designs I've seen.   Some users have expressed a desire to have a VPP disable switch to avoid "inadvertent" programming that some instructions warn about; I added that switch to my relay modification which also gives more voltage options (including a continuously variable one).    Some have experienced problems with parallel ports not supporting low voltage signals (Willem's 4.0 and 4.5 appear to be the first to actually reduce the power supplies "correctly", but that can cause problems with chipsets that don't support low voltage signals).   I'm working on a solution for that.   It will be on a board that you insert between the printer cable and the programmer and will do signal level translations.   Since I'm going to be building more programmers (I'm selling and servicing Willem's programmers in the US), I'm working on some off-line testers.   If you want to make significant modifications, there's nothing to stop you from using the base design as your starting point (Willem released it to the public domain) and growing your own.   Someone in India did this with the ATH3.1SS docs.   He converted it to double sided, move the sockets around so it could be put in an enclosure and added some switches (like VPP disable and power).   You can do this for anything you think is lacking; as long as the program already supports it (no one has had contact with the programmer for over a year - he appears to now be associated with sivava and the 0.98 software).
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Now for the price ... do I get a kit, or fully built and tested... is YOUR pricing better than some other sites,
or should I look at a different programmer all together ... Hmmmm ... now's your cue to make me an offer   Smiley
I'm only aware of 2 other places that sell Willem 4.0 boards and I haven't checked their prices.   I doubt that they hang out on this board because last January we had several members posting problems about a bad batch from Jabs Place.   They fixed their boards (and hopefully are testing better), but the solution was found by several members posting info.

Willem and I are working as a team, so our prices are the same.   You can save some money if you buy a kit.   Whatever you buy, you should consider installing my relay modification if you're going to program NMOS EPROMs.   PM me your email address if you're interested.
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I'm in the USA, so I'll be in your face often    until I get comfortable with the board I choose...
Help me choose wisely
That's okay with me.   I'm glad to help where I can.   I don't have direct experience with a lot of parts, but I'm working on building up my parts "library" so I can test.

HTH,
Dennis

which programmer

By: shodan - 2005-09-10 21:27:49

ok I will take it from you , how do I send you money ?
do I buy with willem's store or do I send you the money directly ? (I have the money in my paypal account)

also which adapters should I get ?
inparticular do I need this adapter for PICs ?

.... wait I was going to quote one of the adapter from an earlier post .. but it's gone ?! did you delete one of my post without leaving a note?

well ... anyway , the adapter I want to know about is this one http://www.sivava.com/image_B14.htm
do I need it to program PICs with the willem 4.0 ?

thanks
Jean-Francois


Re: Which programmer !?

By: shodan - 2005-09-10 11:22:43

Hi,

well I changed my mind and mainly because of support from this forum I want to buy a programmer here instead of sivava

there's only one thing I'm curious about
on the sivava website there are all those adapters that connect in the DIP40 ZIF to add chip support (listed in my previous post in this thread)
do I need any of those adapters with the willem 4.0 ?
do I get the same coverage with the willem 4.0 than I do with the sivava one with all those adapters ?

thanks
Jean-Francois

Re: Does Latest software 0.97ja work with Enhanced

By: DL - 2005-09-08 20:07:51

Hi,
NewUser wrote on 09/08/05 at 19:08:24:
it was nice of you to reply, backbiter17, but my question is still NOT answered.

I was asking why doesn't the Graphic representation of the sockets in the programming software not match the Enhanced boards layout of the DIP socket for the chips to program.
The program works with many different boards.   I ignore all of the pictures of jumpers and board layout.   All that's important is the setting of the DIP12 switch and maybe the 29x040 jumper.

Quote:
for example;

I chose the PIC 16C505   ... and it said what DIP socket to place it to within the Graphic display of the program, but it doesn't match the actual board on the Enhanced version of the programmer board.
The location of sockets and jumpers is different on most boards.   The graphics displayed by the program are probably meaningful for at least one programmer, but definitely not all.

Most of these programmers function the same.   They have to in order to use the generic software.   If your board had a TSOP48 socket (as the Willem 4.5 has), you'd notice that it's always telling you that you need an adapter.

As previously noted, that programmer is not intended for EPROMs (no VCC options and power routing for DIP24 is busted).   There are no publicly available schematic or component diagrams, so getting help from anyone (including whoever made it or sold it to you) will be a problem.   I traded for one of those boards.   It looks sharp and it was a good idea (to replace jumpers with pushbutton logic).   Too bad it wasn't implemented well...   Sanding part numbers is a little extreme.   Just copyright the design and sue anyone who copies it.

If you were thinking about buying a PCB4B from Sivava, I'd reconsider.  They don't provide support for their board (they send people here) and they won't give me information to support it.

Willem's designs (4.0 and 4.5), EZoflash+, ATH3.1SS, and PCB3* with documentation are well supported here...  EZo hangs out here and I have the Willem 4.0, 4.5, ATH3.1SS, and will soon have a single sided PCB3 that I picked up on eBay.  I don't use my enhanced universal with the sanded part numbers - I plan to work on a schematic and component diagram when I have nothing better to do...

HTH,
Dennis

Epr0.97jc1 (by Gitti) and Epr0.98d2 (by sivava)

By: Luciano_Sturaro - 2005-09-07 04:19:42

Hello People! After 1 year I be back!      
     
Would like before coming again, I am Luciano Sturaro, I am from Brazil and I already know and I use programmer Willem the at least 3 years.      
     
As they can see for the topic, I am beginning this discussion on these two versions of the software for windows.      
     
Initially I will talk about Gitti.  
 
I was one of yours "beta-test" and I made some contributions for the development of the software for him writing.      
     
As they can see for the site, the last version that he did to the I publish it went for 0.97ja. Well after this they had left three versions betas, which it was not distributed, 0.97jb and 0.97jc and 0.97jc1 which I received and I tested, and both presented many problems.    
     
Because I swallow that do I publish it? Well, the last contact that had with Gitti it was in 20/August/2004 when he sent me the version 0.97jc1. after this date he didn't answer more  e-mails.      
     
Recently sought information discovered in google, the programmer's version set up by "Sivava" and looking well the software and the programmer that he markets and its place, I wonder if "Sivava" would not be the Gitti, since both are in Taiwan.      
     
Well, leaving that sideways, I solved for I publish it the version 0.97jc1, but I advance that she doesn't work correctly, at least with PIC that I could test she doesn't record the "fuse bits" correctly. The links will be in the end of this message.      
     
Very strange, Gitti used some protection type in its new software, since it is not possible (at least I didn't get) to do reverse engineering in the same, with programs as the "resource hacker".      
     
Now on the software of "Sivava".    
     
Looking at in its site could notice that he practically used the same page of Gitti, and besides makes a direct link for the donwload of the last version it publishes of its software, for 0.97ja      
     
In the case sivava would be own Gitti? If is the same person it is the subject of which the reasons that took to abandon the software and to pass it market it together with programmer. Plus than the conclusion that we needed never arrive urgent of a software with the same means they put in open source.      
     
Researching behind for the internet those days, I found in a Russian forum that took me to a page that I found for download the versions of the software fact for "Sivava".      
     
Looking at in yours makes up he alleges that the software is not compatible with the old boards, done by Gitti and for Willem. They put looking at its available programmer image in its site I don't notice significant differences with relationship to the used. Should be some very small modification and that could be easily already adapted the old boards existent.      
     
Well, I finally leave the links for the softwares, for there not being problem of the same ones they disappear, me the placed in the rapidshare, which I found the best solution for this.      
     
Finally I leave he to who can be deepened in discovering appeal which the modification that doesn't allow that the software Epr0.98d2 works with the old boards and to publish that for the others, since this version seems to be much stableer and has many more available devices. I continue in my researches, finding the modification I will publish it.      
     
My observations:      
     
Attempt of programing of PICs 16F628 and 16F877 and 16F628A:      
     
16F628 and 16F877: It usually program the flash and eeprom, even so it doesn't program the fuse bits, leaving them in the state default. The erase is normal.      
     
16F628A: It usually program the flash and eeprom, even so it doesn't program the fuse bits, leaving them in the state default. The chip doesn't erase more coming back the positions of memory flash as "0000", same linking the pin 10 to GND.      
   
 
Links:  
 
http://www.j-cell.de/willem-eprom/  
 
Local it I found Epr0.98d2  (Russian site)
 
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/4780729/Eprom_98d2.exe.html  
 
Eprom 0.98d2 by Sivava.  
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/4780963/setup98c.exe.html  
 
Eprom 0.98c by Sivava.  
 
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/4781061/EpromM51.exe.html  
 
Latest beta I received from Gitti with a lot of bugs: Epr0.97jc1  
 
To proceed download in rapidshare:  
 
Click in link above, go to bottom in page and click in "Free Download" in next page, waiting counter 45 seconds, and click in a link to get file.  
 
At least, SORRY for my bad, very bad english!  

p.s I LOVE Russian sites ehehehe  

Epr0.97jc1 (by Gitti) and Epr0.98d2 (by sivava)

By: Luciano_Sturaro - 2005-09-07 04:19:42

Hello People! After 1 year I be back!      
     
Would like before coming again, I am Luciano Sturaro, I am from Brazil and I already know and I use programmer Willem the at least 3 years.      
     
As they can see for the topic, I am beginning this discussion on these two versions of the software for windows.      
     
Initially I will talk about Gitti.  
 
I was one of yours "beta-test" and I made some contributions for the development of the software for him writing.      
     
As they can see for the site, the last version that he did to the I publish it went for 0.97ja. Well after this they had left three versions betas, which it was not distributed, 0.97jb and 0.97jc and 0.97jc1 which I received and I tested, and both presented many problems.    
     
Because I swallow that do I publish it? Well, the last contact that had with Gitti it was in 20/August/2004 when he sent me the version 0.97jc1. after this date he didn't answer more  e-mails.      
     
Recently sought information discovered in google, the programmer's version set up by "Sivava" and looking well the software and the programmer that he markets and its place, I wonder if "Sivava" would not be the Gitti, since both are in Taiwan.      
     
Well, leaving that sideways, I solved for I publish it the version 0.97jc1, but I advance that she doesn't work correctly, at least with PIC that I could test she doesn't record the "fuse bits" correctly. The links will be in the end of this message.      
     
Very strange, Gitti used some protection type in its new software, since it is not possible (at least I didn't get) to do reverse engineering in the same, with programs as the "resource hacker".      
     
Now on the software of "Sivava".    
     
Looking at in its site could notice that he practically used the same page of Gitti, and besides makes a direct link for the donwload of the last version it publishes of its software, for 0.97ja      
     
In the case sivava would be own Gitti? If is the same person it is the subject of which the reasons that took to abandon the software and to pass it market it together with programmer. Plus than the conclusion that we needed never arrive urgent of a software with the same means they put in open source.      
     
Researching behind for the internet those days, I found in a Russian forum that took me to a page that I found for download the versions of the software fact for "Sivava".      
     
Looking at in yours makes up he alleges that the software is not compatible with the old boards, done by Gitti and for Willem. They put looking at its available programmer image in its site I don't notice significant differences with relationship to the used. Should be some very small modification and that could be easily already adapted the old boards existent.      
     
Well, I finally leave the links for the softwares, for there not being problem of the same ones they disappear, me the placed in the rapidshare, which I found the best solution for this.      
     
Finally I leave he to who can be deepened in discovering appeal which the modification that doesn't allow that the software Epr0.98d2 works with the old boards and to publish that for the others, since this version seems to be much stableer and has many more available devices. I continue in my researches, finding the modification I will publish it.      
     
My observations:      
     
Attempt of programing of PICs 16F628 and 16F877 and 16F628A:      
     
16F628 and 16F877: It usually program the flash and eeprom, even so it doesn't program the fuse bits, leaving them in the state default. The erase is normal.      
     
16F628A: It usually program the flash and eeprom, even so it doesn't program the fuse bits, leaving them in the state default. The chip doesn't erase more coming back the positions of memory flash as "0000", same linking the pin 10 to GND.      
   
 
Links:  
 
http://www.j-cell.de/willem-eprom/  
 
Local it I found Epr0.98d2  (Russian site)
 
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/4780729/Eprom_98d2.exe.html  
 
Eprom 0.98d2 by Sivava.  
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/4780963/setup98c.exe.html  
 
Eprom 0.98c by Sivava.  
 
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/4781061/EpromM51.exe.html  
 
Latest beta I received from Gitti with a lot of bugs: Epr0.97jc1  
 
To proceed download in rapidshare:  
 
Click in link above, go to bottom in page and click in "Free Download" in next page, waiting counter 45 seconds, and click in a link to get file.  
 
At least, SORRY for my bad, very bad english!  

p.s I LOVE Russian sites ehehehe  

Re: Which programmer !?

By: DL - 2005-09-05 04:26:50

Hi,

My only comment on the PCB4C is to be aware that getting support is difficult.   They send people here for help, but they ignore my requests for information that would allow us to support their board.

Search the board for messages about PCB4C.

I think the Willem 4.0 and 4.5 boards are the best for supporting low voltage devices.   All other designs I've seen use signal diodes and LEDs to drop VCC to low voltage levels.   Sivava.com hasn't replied to my requests about how they support low voltage parts.

The Willem 4.5 is more appropriate for FLASH (no VPP options or serial support).

Willem will be reopening the shop on Monday.   If you're in the US, Willem and I are working on an arrangement for me to do local sales and support.   Will save time and money on shipping.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: what version

By: DL - 2005-09-05 04:18:20

Hi,

It sounds like you have one of the PCB3* boards.  Does the DC-DC converter get hot when the programmer is idle?  What power supply are you using?  With the step up regulator, you should limit your power source to 9VDC to avoid unnecessary power dissipation in the 7805.

Your programmer will work with 0.97g.  It will work with 0.97ja if you have pull-up resistors on all inputs on the CD4503 (may also be a 74HC equivalent).

Use the PCB switch graphic in the program.  There are no "manuals", but you can probably find pictures showing proper jumper settings for VPP and device selection.  Can you post a picture of your board?

Try mcumal.com, sivava.com, or mpu51.  There are others, don't have URL's handy...  Most of those boards also existed without the USB power option.  Mpu51 has a schematic showing the typical change to add that option.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Agreed Settings for 27c160 and 27c801

By: dogtoy - 2005-08-28 23:05:50


Argyle wrote:
Help!

I just got a sivava programmer (PCB 3.5) and I am having trouble programming these two devices (ST M27C801 and ST M27C160)...

I have tested a few other devices (27C1024, 29F040) and the programmer appears to work fine with those chips.   Unfortunately I really bought the thing to program 27C160's so I'd really like to get this working...:)

I've tried the sivava supplied 0.98b software, as well as the 0.97ja and 0.97j versions from here (with the PCB in "3B" mode)...

When I program the 27C801, it appears to program, but fails on verification.   When I read the chip back in, it appears to be all zeroes with 4's sprinkled in there.   I don't have an already written 27C801 to verify that reading the chip is working correctly.

On the 27C160, it bombs out on the first byte.   It usually writes a 4 or a 6 instead of the value it's trying to write. I've tried both lower and higher values of tWp and tWc but it doesn't seem to help.   I have a programmed 27C160 (but unfortunately I do not have the contents already dumped in a file on my PC)...when I read it, it looks correct, but when I try to verify that the chip and the buffer are the same, it bombs out,   usually at the same address (around 0x136d69, for instance, or 0x121574)...if I tweak the tWp and tWc values, I get slightly different values around those addresses.

Has anyone gotten a programmer from sivava and gotten either of these two chips to program correctly?   Let me know...thanks :)

Edit: More info about my system, in case it helps...

I'm using a modern notebook (Pentium-M) running WinXP Home, parallel port is in bidirectional mode (ECP disabled), USB power for the programmer, going to try an external power supply next.   I seem to recall the data sheet saying that the supply voltage needs to be 6V when programming the 27C160, could this be the problem?



I don't know if you are still having problems with this, but I have the same programmer and the 27CXXX 42 pin adapter from Sivava.  I couldn't even get my 27C160 to blank check properly, much less burn.  It Turns out that the 7805 voltage regulator (where the screw hole for grounding is) was making contact with the bottom of the adapter board.

I bent the 7805 back so that it no longer touches and it works perfect now with default settings.

cheers,
-DT

Re: What do I need to program 2716's

By: DL - 2005-08-25 14:34:29

Hi,

Your board can support DIP24 parts with an adapter that's available in the downloads link.  It's DIY.  You can probably buy it from mcumall.com or sivava.com.  You'll still have problems with voltage drop in the VDDp transnstor.

No board that I'm aware of will support 2716 without modifications.  Most NMOS EPROMs can draw 100+mA from VDDp and that's too much for the transistor to handle.  My relay modification fixes it.  It will work fine on your board, but finding a place to mount it might be an issue because your board has a lot of copper on the solder side.  I did one on a dual powered board, so it's possible...  PM me your email if you're interested.

The Willem 4.5 is geared towards FLASH.  It doesn't have enough VPP options to support EPROMs that require 21V or 25V.  No support for serial devices either.

The Willem 4.0 is better suited for your needs.  It has jumpers for 2716/2732 support, but will still have the voltage drop problem.  I have a fairly clean relay solution for that board.  It requires drilling two holes, removing all of the VPP/VCC resistors, and installing three jumper wires.

It looks like some mods were done to your board.  What is the yellow jumper wire for?  What are the three holes near it for?

HTH,
Dennis

Re: PCB4 and SW0.98dx, problems and sivava support

By: EZo - 2005-08-23 19:25:04

tawfeek and DL, from topic "pmc pm49fl004" :

Quote:
i have pcb4C programmer from sivava i use 0.98c version and there is no support in sivava they refer to Willem what shoud i do?


Quote:
I tried getting info on the PCB4C from sivava and was just told that it was different than other programmers.   
You're going to have to try to work with them or figure it out yourself and post info here for others in a similar situation.
....   
If it were me, I'd return the board.   It's not right for them to sell something and send people here for support if they won't provide information necessary to support it.   I asked if they monitored this board and they didn't answer that question...

PCB4 and SW0.98dx, problems and sivava support

By: EZo - 2005-08-16 07:16:02

New H/W from sivava (pcb3b+/3.5, pcb3.7, pcb4c) works with own SW (latest version 0.98d2, more PIC support ). H/W have option to work in pcb3b+ mode (2 jumpers set) with SW 0.97ja.
  Unfortunately no info on HW/SW changes - our forum can't support these programmers and can't give specific recomendations on adapter or SW usage.   :-[    :'(
SW 0.98c/dx versions are not compatible to our devices (ezoflash, w3.1, w4.0, w4.5).
---
- Another issue from russian forum. PC with installed 0.98dx can't work more with old SW 0.97g. Topic author inform getting "Hardware error, check... ", 0.97ja is working.
- My experience on one new XP PC. 0.98dx was installed and removed. I can work with 0.97ja now, oldest versions 0.97g fail with message "Cannot open DriverLinx''.   dll files exist in 2 places (exe directory and system32).
- Note. Old SW versions use port access with driver dllportio.dll ; 0.97ja ,0.98dx apply driver io.dll
-------------
ezoflash+ and 0.98d2 are not compatible. On flash devices verified adressing problem. No more research to find 0.98d2 and new sivava HW specific.   ???
--------------
Please share your info !
Look to have a answer from sivava (if he is looking in our forum, Gitti is not answering more)

New Not program chip M28F410

By: Valerio - 2005-08-14 06:44:13

??? Hi, everything well? I am with problem in the eprom M28F410. When I record the file she goes it ties in the 39% and he/she gives mistake. My ID is 0x20 ST Micro and Device code it is 0xF2. I am using software 97ja; DEVICE 28F-400 B5. Does After that I make the reading again have you vary lines similar of 100 in 100 lines but to real and only the first (0x000000 5C 39 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF) after it is like this (0x0000E0 FF FF FF FF 40 D0 27 FAITH 24 F2 FC 23 FF D1 24 F2) that and false??         
And the 0x000100 repeats the 0x000000 that was for being everything FF of the line 0x000050 to 0x0321DO >>> the interface that I am using PCB4C >> http://www.sivava.com/image_A03.htm      
And the adapter is B09 >> http://www.sivava.com/image_B09.htm      
For larger information? Excuse my English I am from Brazil.   

Re: Which programmer !?

By: micromouse - 2005-08-01 01:42:14

http://www.ty51.com/DeviceList/top2048.txt <<<<

I have bought a version 2004 from them and it is not gd... it fails to program a gal chip properly, i believe it is the s/w problem, when i press "Erase", i think it erase the whole gal, including the fusemap, the user electronic signature UES and the programmer electronic signature PES hence makin it unusable.. i tried email them but got bound back... its s/w interface sucks too... i wouldnt recommand that... it is very cheap from a universal programmer but it is not stable... Or maybe i am the only unlucky 1 who got a faulty 1...

I have then brought a willem pcb4c from sivava.com, there is a bug in their version D2 s/w but i email them and the problem is solved in a few hrs... since willem dont do gal, i make myself a home-made gal programmer...

I not sure abt willem 4.0 but sivava.com pcb4c seem to have more chips support, especially the new microchip pics... i mayb wrong but i am very happy with my willem pcb4c from sivava.com...  especially it looks very nice in a red pcb. hahaha  

Re: Which programmer !?

By: DL - 2005-07-31 21:12:22

Hi,
shodan   wrote on 07/31/05 at 20:22:22:
Hi,

what's the difference between willem 4 and PCB3 ?
is the 4 just an improved version ?
The Willem 4.0 is more like Sivava's PCB4.  I haven't used a PCB4, so can't make any recommendations for it one way or the other.  It's a dual powered version, but the USB power option doesn't make sense for EPROMs because you can't have any VCC options.  One potential problem with dual powered boards is they sometimes use a "jumperless" solution to switch between adapter and USB power.  This introduces a diode drop in the logic supply that they usually try to compensate for by making the 5V VCC option actually a diode higher (some will even add another diode to compensate for the voltage drop in the VDDp transistor switch - all are bad design practices).  As I mentioned, I prefer the simpler linear step down regulator for VPP.

The main enhancements in Willem's 4.0 (over his 3.1) is:  improved power options using LM317 with resistors instead of 7812/7805 with diodes (no other programmers that I'm aware of have this), PLCC32 and FWH/LPC sockets (sivava PCB4 has this too), improved A9 voltage drop (don't know of any other programmer that's done this except Willem 4.5), DIP24 device support (sivava programmers may already have this).

That 74* logic tester on eBay looks like it's just a logic clip (and only 14 pins at that).  HP sold an HP548A that did this, but was a cleaner (smaller) design.  It automatically senses which pin is power and uses that to power the clip.  I can't remember if it indicated floating logic levels like their logic probes do.

I'll take a look at the "universal" program/test anything device when I have more time.  Sounds too good to be true and my experience is that means it isn't true...

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Which programmer !?

By: shodan - 2005-07-31 20:22:22

Hi,

what's the difference between willem 4 and PCB3 ?
is the 4 just an improved version ?

right now I'm thinking of getting a 4.0 pre-assembled and tested (I am equiped to make my own boards and debug them scope and all but I just seem to have incredible back luck making programmers, I tried to make 6 ultra simple pic programmers (less than 6 parts) and they all ended in utter failure !) and after that I'll get adapters on a case by case basis

for testing ICs I found on ebay this
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1504&item=7533869914&rd...

at first I thought they were willem programmers because other people on ebay refer to willem programmers as "universal programmer" too ..  well actually I'm not sure it's not a willem programmer but the list of supporrted ICs is pretty long
http://www.ty51.com/DeviceList/top2048.txt

and the ad says it's a ttl cmos pld tester programmer

http://www.ty51.com/
I can't read chinese but they have a lot of different models !
there is also this thing (looks a bit overpriced)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4661&item=7535022605&rd...

and this simpler widget
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40004&item=7534668853&r...

I'm thinking of getting my programmer from sivava.com that someone refered to in an earlier post (I figure it makes more sense to buy from this side of the Pond) (assuming they don't any of the things you said MCUmall does)
are there other (recommended?) sellers for the US/Canada, maybe sellers that contribute back to this project and sell "vanilla" version of the willem board ?

also for IC testers there is a guy (Sergei Skorobogatov) that uses an homemade tool containing multiple ADC (and probably DAC) to find flaws in the copy protection mechanism of microcontrollers , I'm pretty sure a very similar tool could be built cheaply to test a lot of simpe ICs

http://www.break-ic.com/topics/break-ic.asp

Re: About sivava.com

By: EZo - 2005-07-23 21:28:40

Quote:
I want to know if www.sivava.com belong to Willen?

No.
sivava- group developing pcb3b (pcb3b+, pcb3b/35, pcb3.7c or pcb4c)
willem- 3.1, 4.0, 4.5

About sivava.com

By: psilva - 2005-07-23 20:30:16

I am curious about sivava.

I bought my programmer from sivava, and I want to know if www.sivava.com belong to Willen?

/PSilva

Re: PCB layout in right size

By: DL - 2005-07-22 20:29:03

Hi,

The adapter will work for any FWH/LPC devices.  If you application needs 82802, you should use it.  If you're referring to the parts listed on the adapter; they're just examples of the parts supported.  The only active devices on the adapter are the transistors and diodes.

The Willem 4.0 board has a FWH/LPC socket.  There's an adapter in the shop link at the left and they're also available from other sources (sivava.com and mcumall.com).

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Adaptors

By: DL - 2005-07-21 19:59:44

Hi Mel,

Others may disagree, but I haven't seen any noticeable difference between 3M, Aries, or knock-offs.  Either in quality or performance (e.g. gold plated vs. tin plated).

I don't know what kind of price you think you can get on eBay.  I bought my 48pin ZIF (couldn't find any 42pin) from mcumall.com.  They also have 40pin ZIF sockets for the same price as sivava (sivava doesn't seem to have 48pin).

HTH,
Dennis

Adaptors

By: melott - 2005-07-20 15:06:24

I have the Willem Universal Enhanced Eprom
programmer.

I found this site     sivava.com
     
They list an adaptor ... number    B12

I need the 16 bit dip42 adaptor for programming
the 27c400 chip.
I'm not sure if this is the correct adapter I need
or not.
Could someone take a look at it.
(I really need the adaptor)

Mel

Re: what you think

By: EZo - 2005-06-22 20:52:14

Your pcb3.7c has built-in fwh/lpc adapter. This is absolute new HW version of programmer by sivava and seems nobody has experience on it. Try contact to seller sivava , usually his products verified.

what you think

By: shedhead - 2005-06-20 22:49:04

hi every one just a quicky.. got the3.7c from sivava tryed id the bios ( pmc pm49floo4) nothing no green light ;no play .so barrowed brother in laws fwh/lpc adaptor try that way  and that is ok so what you think the problem can be bearing in mind iam very newto this thank you

NVRAM settings

By: darkhalf - 2005-06-18 16:15:49

I've just received my PCB3.7C programmer from sivava this week and have done some basic programming/read tests etc with the 27C256 chips to check board functionality running from my 12V adaptor running 0.97JA software from this site

I'm specifically got the programmer to get it programming the SimTek 32Kx8 (STK16C88) NVRAM chips. these guys are similar to the Dallas DS1230 32Kx8 NVRAM but use EEPROM back up instead of battery backup on VCC

At this stage I've done several tests on the SimTek and buffer writes using FF, 00, AA/55 and 55/AA write/verify fine. But if I get a proper binary from an ECU and try to write/verify the readback data is completely different

Noticed both the settings for 62256 SRAM/DS1230 NVRAM in the software are the same. Normally when I click to get the ID is obtained do the timing settings change? When I tried a spare AS7C256 SRAM I only get 'Hardware present' as the status after trying to get the ID. Is this normal or should be an ID displayed?

The defaults in the software are tWc=3us/tWP=5us but the datasheet for the DS1230 states tWc=70ns/ tWP=55ns. Can someone explain why the difference?

The AS7C256-20 SRAM is 20ns/20ns and the STK16C88 is 25ns/20ns with the same pin configuration, so I am hoping to use these by changing the timing if possible

Also whilst programming these type of NVRAM, is VCC kept on the whole time during the writing or is it cycled on/off?
(If it is cycled I would probably need to keep VCC connected externally to this NVRAM chip during the programming as these chips have an internal capacitor and logic to backup from SRAM to EEPROM when power is disconnected)

Sorry about all the questions but I couldn't find much info relating to this

thanks
Matt

Re: Please help program TE28F160 C3T by intel

By: EZo - 2005-06-16 17:53:02

16bit flash adapter required, sivava T01+T07

Re: 27C256R PROM

By: DL - 2005-06-12 23:31:05

Hi Phil,

Any Willem compatible programmer will do the job.   Some boards will support EPROMs in PLCC32, but your particular part will need a PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter.

ALL of the boards I've seen that have PLCC32 sockets still need an adapter for devices with capacities lower than 1Mb.

Most EPROMs in PLCC32 and plastic DIP will be OTP (one time program).   You can actually program them many times but, since you can't erase, you can only program a '1' bit to '0' or '1' to a '1'.   Some manufacturers marketed FLASH devices as "electrically erasable EPROMs".   Technically they're FLASH devices because they use Fowler Nordheim Tunneling instead of UV light for erase.   There was a LCCC32 (Leadless Ceramic Chip Carrier) package; similar to PLCC32, but with a quartz window and therefore UV erasable.

There's a PLCC32 to DIP32 adapter in the shop link (http://www.willem.org/epromshop.html) at the left.   They're also available from places like sivava.com (http://www.sivava.com) and mcumall.com (http://www.mcumall.com).

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Willem 4.5 + Te28F320 C3B

By: EZo - 2005-06-11 14:22:26

No. This is 8/16 bit tsop48 adapter.
T01/T07 find here

Re: Willem 4.5 + Te28F320 C3B

By: EZo - 2005-06-10 20:34:14

TE28F320 is 16 bit device, apply extra adapter from sivava T01/T07

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: bitor - 2005-06-09 20:05:22

Hello EZo,

Yes, after i pushed the PLCC32 chip in correctly...the chip programed just fine. I put it in to my computer and it booted up and ran GREAT!!!

This is the one you are talking about right?
http://www.sivava.com/image_B01.htm

If that one above is correct then what is this one do?
http://www.sivava.com/image_B02.htm
I was told that the "B02" was for a BIOS Devices with capacities below 1Mb require a PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter. Is this correct?

Thanks again for all your help,

Regards ,

Aaron

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: EZo - 2005-06-08 16:22:28


Quote:
P.S. I am going to buy the PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter at sivava for my PCB3B/PCB3.5 EPROM board. I asume this is for a 5V chip(see below)? I have a 5v PLCC32 chip that I want to program and was wondering if this adapter would do this.  
Winbond
w49F002UP12B

Apply PLCC-32 to DIP-32 adapter. Chip W49F002 is 5V flash device.
PLCC32 to DIP28 is used for 27C256/512 eproms

Is the FWH/LPC BIOS W49V002 programmed now ?

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: bitor - 2005-06-08 15:48:19

Thank you Dennis and EZo!!!

Well, it seems as if I'm a dumb ass. The problem is simple now that I know what it is. Inshort, I did NOT push the PLCC32 chip in to the socket fully. I guess I'm glad it was not something more. But I have learned from my mistake so I guess a mistake is not a mistake unless it is not corrected. I have corrected my error ,but still feel dumb about it. In the future, I hope I can call on you Dennis and EZo for help if I need it. Thanks again for all your help Dennis!!! You have been very nice to me and for that I thank you.

Sincerely,

Aaron


P.S. I am going to buy the PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter at sivava for my PCB3B/PCB3.5 EPROM board. I asume this is for a 5V chip(see below)? I have a 5v PLCC32 chip that I want to program and was wondering if this adapter would do this.

Winbond
w49F002UP12B
202345101
035GHSA
Thank you!!!

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: bitor - 2005-06-07 22:32:00

Thank you Dennis, I will just try to program my BIOS chip without moving the jumper switch on the Adapter FWH/LPC board. I'm afraid I might mess something up by moving the jumper(my BIOS chip) Could you please ask your friend/buddies/etc. about the switching the voltage to 3.3V for my BIOS chip. This is not as straight forward as I thought it might be. And If I asked around it could take me sometime. That is why I'm asking you since you seem to be the master at this.

Once again Dennis, thank you for all your help.

Sincerelly,

Aaron

Dennis, this is the error I get if I put the adapter in like the website sivava shows it.

Error at 0x000000 chip=0x04 buffer=0x25

What is this and how do I correct it?

Thanks

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: DL - 2005-06-07 21:01:18

Hi Aaron,

The sivava website has a picture showing how to install (it's a single sided version, but component locations look very similar).  Pin 1 is near the jumper.

I don't have this adapter, so can't tell you what you need to do for LV parts.  It appears that there's a signal diode and possibly an LED in series with pin32 on the connector and VCC on the PLCC32 socket.  The jumper might have something to do with selecting LV options.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: EZo - 2005-05-30 22:40:05

No.
FWH/LPC adapter has PLCC-32 socket , 3 transistors and some other components. Find pictures here

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: DL - 2005-05-29 03:42:51

Hi Aaron,

They're the same thing.  If you want to split semantic hairs, sivava has it backwards.  The adapter adapts PLCC32 to DIP28 so is more correctly called a PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter.  Their price isn't bad (unless you can make your own).

HTH,
Dennis

Eprom For PCs Only

By: bitor - 2005-05-28 20:36:18

Hello and Greetings:

Just a thought and it has already been talked about I'm sure.
How about making a Eprom just for all PLCC32 computer BIOS chips for 1mb and up. Make it user friendly and I bet you would sell lot's of them!!!
Or maybe have section for people who are only concerned about PC repair then another section for TV repair, etc. I think the web site and the knowledge at http://www.sivava.com is mixed together to much. Lot's of information, but for me (and I am new to this) I would only want to know about what I am interested in which is how to progam my PC's BIOS chip and not all the other stuff. Don't get me wrong, I would like to learn about all the other stuff. I just think it is confusing to a person who is new at this.

Anyway, I just thought suggest this.


Thanks for viewing,

Aaron

Re: HELP Willem EPROM Programmer Ver ( PCB3B/PCB3.

By: bitor - 2005-05-28 19:32:29

Hello Dennis:

Thank you for you help. I'm slowly learning the steps for the eprom programer.
You stated that I would need the PLCC32 to DIP28 adapter for 1Mb and below. I went to the site http://www.sivava.com/Product_B.htm   and I could not find this adapter. There is an adapter DIP28 to PLCC32. Is this the one you mean? Maybe I'm blind, but I cannot seem to find that adapter you stated. Or the "DIP24 package (e.g. 28C16). " I'd like to buy that one also as long as it will work with my eprom board.
I'm sorry if I'm a little slow on this. I'm tring to learn how to do this and I really thank you for your help.

Thanks again for you help!
Your very kind.

Aaron

Re: ic flash model sstmpf 39vf800a

By: EZo - 2005-05-21 11:23:45

Chip is 16bit flash. Apply ezoflash+/tsop48d2 or willem  programmer/sivava T01/T07 adapter

Re: Willem 4.5 + M28W160BB

By: Edoardo80 - 2005-05-08 18:15:48

I have visited this site (www.sivava.com) but the adapter T01/T07 I haven't found !!!

Can you show me the precise adapted?

Sorry for my bad English! Thanx!

Re: Willem 4.5 + M28W160BB

By: backbiter17 - 2005-05-08 18:05:21

www.sivava.com
they are trusteable
br, ales

Re: Willem 4.5 + M28W160BB

By: Edoardo80 - 2005-05-07 12:51:09

Must I use this adapter (sivava T01/T07) for programming ST M28W160BB with Willem 4.5 ?
The 4.5 have a TSOP48 adapter !!!

Still thanx!

Re: Willem 4.5 + M28W160BB

By: EZo - 2005-05-06 21:00:52

M28W160BB is 16bit flash memory, apply external 16bit flash adapter (sivava T01/T07)

Re: Redesigned TSOP48-Adapter for Yamachisockets

By: EZo - 2005-05-06 08:34:26

Good - youhave 2 choises for ezoflash+ !
For Willem - purchase sivava T01/T07

can anybody help me

By: xlxlxll - 2005-05-06 06:43:34

this is adapter from sivava, i am not sure about the use of the Jumpers and this 2 resistances , could anybody familiarity with this help me out.
many thx!

Vpp Range Error programming 28F800/B3B

By: greg662 - 2005-05-02 17:20:41

I have a PCB3 with a sivava TSOP 48 adapter.

I can successfully read the ID of a 28F800/B3B.  

However, as soon as I try to program the chip, it gives me a "Vpp Range Error" message.  

I tried removing the adapter and testing voltage out of the ZIF socket.  For Vcc I get 4.8V, for Vpp I get 11V.  I have tried USB as well as a 12V DC 300 ma supply.  

There are so many jumpers and almost no documentation on what they do, I don't know where to begin.

Can anyone help?

Re: Redesigned TSOP48-Adapter for Yamachisockets

By: backbiter17 - 2005-05-01 18:46:57

thisone
http://www.sivava.com/image_T10.htm
br, ales

Re: ST M28W160 ???

By: ziko - 2005-04-22 11:53:16

Noone answer from sivava.com
EZo, can you please send me schematics (PCB) for use with Willem, because I haven't build your programator.
I mean sch for 16bit adapter.

wbr

Re: ST M28W160 ???

By: ziko - 2005-04-19 18:11:43

Thanks I will try.

By the way , has anyone PCB printout from "www.sivava.com " PCBs.
I need to use one 48 TSOP socket and need 5x PCB (To4 - To9)

Thanks