Re: ST M28W160 ???

By: EZo - 2005-04-19 15:24:26

Probably yes. Chip is not verified, or try search results on forum. Apply willem programmer + sivava T01/T07 16bit adapter, or ezoflash+/tsop48d2. SW 0.97ja, selected devices 16bit 28F160C3... Come back with results.

SST 39VF800A - 70

By: d_valkov - 2005-04-15 21:48:22

PSB 3B v1.2 + adapter TSOP48 (16bit) from sivava  + 0.9xh1

One working flesh can`t get ID and can`t write but read OK!
10 others ALL is OK .  
Where is the problem .... maybe the first one is LOCK ?

Re: programing the 28f320

By: EZo - 2005-04-11 20:57:56

- Run sivava T01/T07 test (http://www.willem.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gen_dis1;action=display;num=1107868435;start=24#24). Note - keep selection as expect to 28F320 for W4.0 (or your expected), max voltages will be less (from 4.95 to ...3.6).
Results will indicate problem.
- Another problem source. Clean chip legs (up/down, sucking wick, soldering iron, clean), check are pins straight, check chip position in socket (apply magnifier, small shift is available in socket, move chip)
- Are you sure in 39LV160, not 39LF160 or 39VF160 (from SST)

Re: programing the 28f320

By: MRDP - 2005-04-11 20:36:48


EZo wrote:
Do you apply sivava 16bit flash T01/T07 adapter, built-in on W4.5 support only 8/16bit TSOP48.


Esteemed EZO

It can be put   to Willem version 4.5 sivava 16 bit flash T01/T07 but I can't take i28Fxxx series ID and I can't see   39lv160 which firm has it and I don't know it's model.What can be its reason?How can I solve this problem? I've been crazy for a month.

Re: programing the 28f320

By: EZo - 2005-04-11 19:48:17

Do you apply sivava 16bit flash T01/T07 adapter, built-in on W4.5 support only 8/16bit TSOP48.

Re: programing the 28f320 and 28f800c3t

By: MRDP - 2005-04-11 12:51:54


EZo wrote:
TE28F320C3B verified OK (read/erase/blank check/program/verify) on following devices below. SW 0.97ja, selected device 16bit 28F320C3B. Get ID 0x0089 Intel, 0x88C5 28F320C3B. CFI Query present. Program/verify time about 20min. Option 28Fxxx sector lock/unlock not activ, status are lock for all sectors.
1)ezoflash+(v4.3)/tsop48d1 (or tsop48d2 with JpAA). Jumpers Jp2(Vcc=3.6V), Jp5(A18 )
2)PCB3B/sivava T01/T07. PCB3B jumpers J1 2-5 (default,A13), J2 1-5 (default,A11), J3 2-3 (pin1 Vpp), J6 1-2 and J7 2-3 (vpp=12.7V), J8 1-2 (Vcc=5V), dipswitch picture PCB3 3-5-6-8-10-12 on, full 8wire cable from programmer J4 to adapter. T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V removed.
3) W3.1/sivava T01/T07. W3.1 jumper normal (normal/29x040), power switch 1-2 on (Vpp=12.7V), dipswitch picture Willem 3-5-6-8-10-12 on. A19 (on 6pin connector) connected to adapter connector pin 7 (A19), A20 (on 6pin connector) connected to adapter connector pin 5 (A20).   T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V removed.
4) W4.0/sivava T01/T07. W4.0 jumpers Vpp(Vpp/A18,A19), normal (normal/erase), powerswitch 2 on (Vpp=12.7) and 4 on (Vcc=3.3V), dipswitch picture PCB3 3-5-6-8-10-12 on. A19 ( Jp2 pin4) connected to adapter connector pin 7 (A19), A20 (Jp2 pin5) connected to adapter connector pin 5 (A20). T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V closed.



  WiLLEM 4.5 = How is this setting ?

Re: Willem 4.5 + Intel TE28F320 C3B ?

By: EZo - 2005-04-02 20:24:21

Apply sivava 16bit flash adapters T01/T07.

Re: Pcb3b/pcb35 problem with 27c512Got the

By: ozvic - 2005-04-02 07:50:01

Ok, got no replies.  Checked Sivava.com site and saw the latest software for this board which is 0.98c.
Cant download from the site. Contacted sivava and they kindly sent me the software.
Loaded software and problem solved using a 25c512!
                                                                            Vic

29F002NT settings.

By: Horse - 2005-03-30 20:34:48

After toying around for a while, I managed this:

Brief: Re-program EP-8KTA3+PRO Mainboard Bios chip EON EN29F002NT with valid bios after error due to corruption via new board insertion.

Programmer:      Sivava pcb35
Power:            9V External Power Supply (inner sleeve positive)
Adaptor:      Sivava DIP32->PLCC32 (jumper ON)
Printer Lead:      Belkin F3D112ea06 1:1 DB25 Male to Female (meant for some kind of KVM)
Software:      Willem Eprom (0.97ja)
Bios File:      8k202205.bin (latest available from Epox US site)

Jumper Settings:

Set BOTH board jumpers to PCB3
Set power to VDC
Set voltage (J8) to 5V
Set J3 to VPP

All other jumper settings were untouched/as delivered.

Dip switch settings are as described in the program for the MX29F002 - T.

Set Device to MX29F002 - T, all the status settings should say Unlock, check the chip Manufacturer and ID, load the bios file, flash and it should work, it did for me.

Hope this helps.  

Horse.

Re: M27C256B 12C1 fails blank check and won't prog

By: DL - 2005-03-30 16:00:18

Hi Robert,

Willem has one in his shop.   Both assembled and bare board.

sivava.com seems to have the best price on that adapter.

If you're in North America, mcumall.com might be another option.

If you want to build your own, there's artwork for a thru-hole and surface mount adapter in the downloads link.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Using PCB3 to program Intel 28F800

By: greg662 - 2005-03-23 04:54:29

Thanks for your help.

I think you are right.  The eBay listing says my TSOP 48 adapter supports only "Byte mode" programming.  I gather the 28F800 is 16-bit and cannot be programmed this way, correct?

One thing I'm not clear on, however.  There are two TSOP 48 adapters:  8/16-bit and 16-bit.  Is the 8/16-bit one the one that does byte-mode programming of 16-bit chips?  And the 16-bit one does word-mode?  It appears that way to me.  I have ordered the T01/T07 combination from the www.sivava.com website.  I'll post here if it works.  

Re: Just a question

By: EZo - 2005-03-13 18:11:04

You have to start from beginning, no docs (except datasheet) and experience available on mentioned chip.
Note -
-chip is 16bit, it schould be based on 16bit flash adapter schematic (sivava T01/T07 for willem, tsop48d2 for ezoflash+)
-chip has additional pins for burst mode operation, find default values for them to provide work in standard read/programming mode
- there is only 16bit SW for 28F160B3 and 28F160C3. Unknown- is compatible algorythm to 28F160F3 ? Is any SW update required ?
- chips are in tsop56 or ssop-56 packages. There is no psop package (psop and ssop packages are similar, different pin distance)

Re: Problems Burning AT27C080's

By: Memblers - 2005-03-06 11:18:41

I ended up having a problem too, most of the bytes programmed wrong.  On the AT27C080.

notes:
I have Sivava's pcb3.5 version.
I checked VPP with the voltmeter before programming, it was 12.8V.
I used a DC Adapter outputting 12V, 600mA.
Software version is .98c, supplied with the programmer.

If I try it again, any recommendations?  I hate to see OTP roms going to waste.  This programmer has always worked fine for flash roms, and reading EPROMs.

Re: Problems Burning AT27C080's

By: DL - 2005-03-04 16:05:33

Hi,
Necrosaro420   wrote on 02/26/05 at 21:24:27:
Ok, I have the PCB3b (what is says on the actual circuit board).    I have 2 AT27C080's that I am trying to burn.    I have tried everything that I can think of.    I put it in Willem mode on the software, and also on PCB3 mode and tryed all of the following.
The PCB/Willem mode in the software only changes the display for the DIP12 switch.  Some Willem designs had the switches reversed.  The 4.0 and 4.5 boards use the PCB3 option.
Quote:
Normal write, stop's at 99%, then I do a black check...says its black...Normal burn with the Skip Read Error box checked...same deal, stops at 99%, do a blank check, and its blank.    I set it to both of the 27C080 options is has, AT27C080 (pro 50uS), and the 27C080/801 (PCB3), and tried it like all of these above as well.    It keeps saying it is blank.    I opened the program fresh, put the chip in, and just did a "Read"    They are all Blank (FF)....Any clue on what I am doing wrong?    Thanks Alot
How are the switches set?  What voltages have you selected?  What board do you have?  A lot of boards say they're PCB3, and most have minor differences.

These programmers don't give you exact control over voltages (unless you modify them like I do).  So the closest VPP voltage option you have will be around 12.5V.  Check the datasheet, this should be within specs; or close enough.  I've found that parts are less susceptible to low VPP than VCC.  Most non-USB-only powered boards will have a 6.4V VCC option.  The typical way to change voltages on the PCB3 boards is with jumpers.

Post a reference to a picture of your board.  If you don't have anywhere to host a picture, check mcumall.com, sivava.com, or eBay for a one.

HTH,
Dennis

Re: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: EZo - 2005-02-25 10:21:40

@Stephane
My settings on W4.0
W4.0/sivava T01/T07. W4.0 jumpers Vpp(Vpp/A18,A19), normal (normal/erase), powerswitch 2 on (Vpp=12.7) and 4 on (Vcc=3.3V), dipswitch picture PCB3 3-5-6-8-10-12 on. A19 ( Jp2 pin4) connected to adapter connector pin 7 (A19), A20 (Jp2 pin5) connected to adapter connector pin 5 (A20). T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V closed.

Quote:
cable between W4.5 and T7
A22 to A22, A21 to A21, A20 to A20, A19 to A19, A19 to P1

Note-pins are not 1:1 in line for adapter and programmer.

Quote:
If I read the chip one time, why the second time, I get some bites difference ?

- Clean chip pins. You can apply spray Contact 61.
- Go test H/W and check voltages Vcc, Vpp (on ZIF) Check all adress/data and other pins as described. Voltage on activ signal will be less 3.6V .

Re: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: Stephane - 2005-02-25 03:06:12

Hello all,

Maybe somebody can help me, I still have some problem.

I try to read a Intel 28F160 C3T A90
I get a good ID
Manufacture 0x0089  Intel
Device code 0x88C2 28F160 C3T
and I get the CFI Query buttom ;D

But when I read one time, and compaire with a second reading, I get some different bites.  If I do a "Verify" , I get message Error at 0x000180 chip = 0xF00B buffer = )x023C ???  The location will be different each time..
:o

Setup
Programmer Willem 4.5
4 way switch  -> 4=On only
12 way swith -> 3,5,6,8,10,12 = ON
jumper on Vpp

16 Bit adapter from sivava T07/T01
jumper on adapter = 28Fx00 config,
Jumper on 3.6 V
Jumper between D1 & D2

cable between W4.5 and T7
A22 to A22, A21 to A21, A20 to A20, A19 to A19, A19 to P1,
Software:
97ja -  > Request Adapter 3.3V / Flash 16 bits (LV) /Intel 28Fx00 / 28F160 C3T

If I read the chip one time, why the second time, I get some bites difference ?

Thanks for your help

Stephane  ;)

Re: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: Stephane - 2005-02-24 20:25:37

Hello Guys,

I have the similar problem with a Intel TE28F160C3TA90,
Programmer Willem 4.5
Adapter sivava T07
When I Get ID , I get different results, But I just change (put) the jumper for the 3.6 volt  after that I get the good ID.

00089 Intel
88C2   28F160C3T

Try that maybe the voltage issue.

stephane

Re: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: EZo - 2005-02-24 19:33:07

Sivava T07/T01 Test H/W guide (for 28Fx00 devices).
Set PCB3B and T07 jumpers as recomended before (don't guide on given test H/W picture).
Set adapter T07 only, set full 8-wire cable between programmer and adapter.
Connect power supply and PC , run SW 0.97ja, option Test H/W.
- Activate Vcc (remain activ in further tests)
Check 74HC14 pin14 (+5.0), other IC's pin 20 (+5)
- Further voltages are measured on 2x12 T07 strip connector pins.
- Left connector outside, start from upper pin one by one down (number and function relates to chip pin )
pin1 A15 - activate A15 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin3 A13 - activate A13 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin5 A11 - activate A11 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin7 A9 - activate A9 on/off (+3.05/+0.0)
pin9 A21 - activate A21 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin11 WE# - activate CE on/off (+4.00/+0.0)
pin13 Vpp - (+3.7)
pin15 A19 - activate A19 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin17 A17 - activate A17 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin19 A6 - activate A6 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin21 A4 - activate A4 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin23 A2 - activate A2 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
- Left connector inside, start from upper pin one by one down
pin2 A14 - activate A14 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin4 A12 - activate A12 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin6 A10 - activate A10 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin8 A8 - activate A8 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin10 A20 - activate A20 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin12 RST# - (+3.7), upper jumper on separate 3pin block
pin14 WP# - (+3.7)
pin16 A18 - activate A18 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin18 A7 - activate A7 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin20 A5 - activate A5 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin22 A3 - activate A3 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin24 A1 - activate A1 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
- Right connector inside, start from upper pin one by one down
pin47 Vccq - (+3.7)
pin45 D15 - activate OE,Vpp, D7-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin43 D14 - activate OE,Vpp, D6-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin41 D13 - activate OE,Vpp, D5-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin39 D12 - activate OE,Vpp, D4-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin37 Vcc - (+3.7), jumper OPEN=3.6V removed
pin35 D3 - activate OE, D3-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin33 D2 - activate OE, D2-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin31 D1 - activate OE, D1-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin29 D0 - activate OE, D0-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin27 GND - (+0.0)
pin25 A0 - activate A0 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
- Right connector outside, start from upper pin one by one down
pin48 A16 - activate A16 on/off (+4.35/+0.0)
pin46 GND - (+0.0)
pin44 D7 - activate OE, D7-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin42 D6 - activate OE, D6-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin40 D5 - activate OE, D5-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin38 D4 - activate OE, D4-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin36 D11 - activate OE,Vpp, D3-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin34 D10 - activate OE,Vpp, D2-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin32 D9 - activate OE,Vpp, D1-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin30 D8 - activate OE,Vpp, D0-on/off (+4.95/+0.0)
pin28 OE#- activate OE on/off (4.95/+0.0)
pin26 CE# - (+0.0)
Failures can be found based on test results differencies.
Adapter T01 provides 1:1 connections .
Additionally some tests (OE,Vpp related) on adapter's IC's can be helpful,  only some efforts required to get sivava components layout and all schematic differencies between both adapters.
Good luck   ;)

Re: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: EZo - 2005-02-24 18:06:32

Don't modify adapter !
Possible problems-
1) wrong settings (jumpers)
2) adapter initial failure
3) contact problems (no straight pins, not cleaned pins, chip shifted in socket)
Sivava adapters T01/T07 generally is equal to ezoflash+ adapter tsop48d1 (schematic find in EZo download)
Basic princips for 28F320C3B on adapter
Pin 14 WP# -log1(pullup resistor) write protect disabled
Pin 12 RP# - log1(pullup resistor) functional mode
Pin 13 Vpp is tied to Vcc. Vpp=12V is not used.
Pin 47 Vccq is tied to Vcc, output buffer voltage
Pin 26 CE# grounded , chip enabled
Pin 37 Vcc= 3.6V , in tsop48d1 provided from programmer, in sivava 2 diods are used on adapter to reduce programmers 5V (jumper on diods is removed)
Sivava jumpers 28Fx00 and 29Fx00 provides connections to pins 9,13,15 for different devices (16bit 28F, 8/16bit 29F, 16 bit SST39SF/VF, 64MB 28F 16bit, 64Mb 8/16bit). EZoFlash jumpers for 8/16 bit devices are implemented on tsop48d2
Vpp from programmer is used on adapter to switch-manage high/low byte only.
Get ID functionality is important, it confirms chip receives SW commands and respond correctly.
I'll be back in next topic how to use Test H/W and measure signals voltage directly on T01 Wells tsop48 socket or T07 connectors pins.

iRe: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: trek - 2005-02-22 03:29:31

hI checked connections and Pins, it seems to be OK. Is there a there an alternative setup other than ezo's?


Quote:
TE28F320C3B verified OK (read/erase/blank check/program/verify) on following devices below. SW 0.97ja, selected device 16bit 28F320C3B. Get ID 0x0089 Intel, 0x88C5 28F320C3B. CFI Query present. Program/verify time about 20min. Option 28Fxxx sector lock/unlock not activ, status are lock for all sectors. PCB3B/sivava T01/T07. PCB3B jumpers J1 2-5 (default,A13), J2 1-5 (default,A11), J3 2-3 (pin1 Vpp), J6 1-2 and J7 2-3 (vpp=12.7V), J8 1-2 (Vcc=5V), dipswitch picture PCB3 3-5-6-8-10-12 on, full 8wire cable from programmer J4 to adapter. T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V removed.


I have this programmer and setup but still unable to ID the chip. Please can anyone give me any other suggestions. All connections are fine and pins are fine on this one!

PS... can anyone tell me where I can get another Intel 28f320 c3b chip? I broke the pins on one of them!!!

Re: Intel 28f320 c3b

By: trek - 2005-02-16 16:05:54

hello when I run the software I get a message popup ...

SELECT VCC=3.3<->3.6v
After this the sofware starts but I cant get ID or any chip info..the box in window that should have pic of chip says... Require Adapter TSOP48 I6Bit Mode

Can anyone tell me what is wrong? I've followed ezo's guide for jumper setttings etc.. I have the sivava 16 bit adapter using PCB3B/PCB3.5 programmer

Intel 28f320 c3b

By: trek - 2005-02-08 14:13:55

Hello I have  
1) T01 - TSOP48LD Socket A  
2) T07 - Adapter TSOP48 (16bit) - both from sivava and
3) A02 - Willem EPROM Programmer  V.PCB3B/PCB3.5

I am trying to program Intel 28f320 c3b chip for  Nokia D Box2. I have the dumps for flash. Can anyone tell me the settings I need to use or how I need to setup my Willem/adapter. I've searched around but souldn't see any post on this.

I'm new nubie so any help appreciated.....

   

Results on AT49...8/16bit chips

By: EZo - 2005-01-26 02:21:54

Quote:
My latests tests (AT49BV4096A, AT49BV162, AT49BV1614, AT49BV322) confirm that chips AT49LV/BV 8/16bit are sample to sample sensitiv and critical to SW. I found chips different behaviour(OK, NOK- no ID, verify error somewhere in second half) on different adapters (8/16bit, 16bit,..) and programmers, seems critical command timing. The same was on different SW, programmer with all pull-up resistors- ezoflash4v4.
I'll be back with summary report.
AT49BV4096A
- ezoflash+/tsop48b2 NOK (wrong   dev. ID-0x11, NOK program)
- ezoflash+/tsop48d2 OK (sometimes verify error on Vcc=3.6V, OK on Vcc=3.0)
- w3.1/tsop48LV NOK (wrong dev.ID)
- PCB3B/sivava T07-T01 (16bit) OK
- PCB3B/sivava T06-T01 (8/16bit) NOK
AT49BV162A
- ezoflash+/tsop48b2 NOK (no ID-0xFF, NOK program)
- ezoflash+/tsop48d2 OK
- w3.1/tsop48LV OK
- PCB3B/sivava T07-T01 (16bit) NOK (wrong ID)
- PCB3B/sivava T06-T01 (8/16bit) OK
AT49BV322A
- ezoflash+/tsop48b2 OK
- ezoflash+/tsop48d2 OK
- PCB3B/sivava T07-T01 (16bit) NOK (no ID 0xFFFF)
- PCB3B/sivava T06-T01 (8/16bit) OK
AT49BV1614
- ezoflash+/tsop48b2 OK
- ezoflash+/tsop48d2 OK
- w3.1/tsop48LV NOK (ID OK, sometimes error)
- PCB3B/sivava T07-T01 (16bit) OK
- PCB3B/sivava T06-T01 (8/16bit) OK
I'm really confused in results and can't find logic. There is no discuss about bad contacts, same PC and SW used. Tried on different selected devices (AT49F...8/16, 29LVx00 groups)

Re: m29w400 prog

By: _togo_ - 2005-01-21 05:30:41

Sorry willem and EZo...I  have to post this....for the best bang for the buck...assuming you already have the PCB3.....buy the 5 in 1 adatper kit from sivava.com....you won't be sorry.
Regards,
Tom

Re: which willem version?

By: evilnecro - 2005-01-13 00:05:30

Dennis,

Thanks for the boatload of info, I've pretty much ruled out the 'enhanced' version (no schematics, sanded part #s, USB powered).

Has anyone here dealt with sivava.com?  They have a decent looking model PCB3.5 - whatever that it is! (http://www.sivava.com/Product_A02.htm)... seems a bit more reasonable with programming voltages and repairability, works with a wall wart, lots of adapters available as well.

Re: worked fine for few days not now!!!!help

By: DL - 2004-12-22 16:39:17

Hi,

It's not unusual for the parallel port to get out of synch with the program at startup or when the computer comes out of standby.   Just make sure the VPP and VDDp LEDs are off when inserting and removing devices from the programming sockets.

A chip installed backwards would give the symptoms you describe.   Does ID work with no device in the socket?   It won't return anything useful, but shouldn't give the check error.

If this was a recent purchase, sivava.com might have a return/repair/support option.

HTH,
Dennis

worked fine for few days not now!!!!help

By: netstal1 - 2004-12-22 06:31:16

i got a willem from sivava and it worked fine until now the software says Hardware error Check power and connections >
any idea  to replace any part or ic?

Re: jumper settings willem 4.5 tsop48

By: DL - 2004-12-20 00:33:27

Hi jigglypuff,

I've been seeing posts about people with 4.5 boards not getting schematics or jumpers not being set correctly or not provided or documentation not being available.  I don't think these boards are coming from Willem and just want clarification.  When I received my 4.0 (blank) board from Willem, it included a schematic and component diagram (even though both are readily available on this website).

I saw a Willem 4.5 board on eBay from someone in China.  This is not from Willem (he doesn't sell on eBay), but it uses a picture of his board.  If they didn't come from Willem, they should use a different board number so unsuspecting buyers won't think it's the real deal (unless they're buying them from Willem and reselling - which I don't think is the case unless they like to sell at a loss).  Willem's boards may cost a little more, but the after sale support more than justifies any price difference.

I added my relay mod for someone with a PCB35/PCB3 board (that appears to be from sivava.com).  It didn't come with a schematic or instructions and I feel for people who buy these boards.  And this information is not readily available on sivava.com.  It's a pain for anyone who works on these boards...

I'm going to be modifying another board (the one with the sanded part numbers).  Again, no schematics.  I don't see what these people are trying to hide/protect.  It's not their design anyway.  Try working on a few of these or helping others without schematics and component layout and you'll see what I mean.

This website is run by Willem and I don't think he intended to be providing customer support for his competition.  But I've been directed to this website when I asked other vendors for information...

Lastly, if you think my post are boring or I have some hidden agenda, feel free skip those parts or not read them at all.  After all, free advice isn't worth much...

Dennis

Re: programing the 28f320

By: EZo - 2004-12-11 18:03:06

TE28F320C3B verified OK (read/erase/blank check/program/verify) on following devices below. SW 0.97ja, selected device 16bit 28F320C3B. Get ID 0x0089 Intel, 0x88C5 28F320C3B. CFI Query present. Program/verify time about 20min. Option 28Fxxx sector lock/unlock not activ, status are lock for all sectors.
1)ezoflash+(v4.3)/tsop48d1 (or tsop48d2 with JpAA). Jumpers Jp2(Vcc=3.6V), Jp5(A18 )
2)PCB3B/sivava T01/T07. PCB3B jumpers J1 2-5 (default,A13), J2 1-5 (default,A11), J3 2-3 (pin1 Vpp), J6 1-2 and J7 2-3 (vpp=12.7V), J8 1-2 (Vcc=5V), dipswitch picture PCB3 3-5-6-8-10-12 on, full 8wire cable from programmer J4 to adapter. T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V removed.
3) W3.1/sivava T01/T07. W3.1 jumper normal (normal/29x040), power switch 1-2 on (Vpp=12.7V), dipswitch picture Willem 3-5-6-8-10-12 on. A19 (on 6pin connector) connected to adapter connector pin 7 (A19), A20 (on 6pin connector) connected to adapter connector pin 5 (A20).   T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V removed.
4) W4.0/sivava T01/T07. W4.0 jumpers Vpp(Vpp/A18,A19), normal (normal/erase), powerswitch 2 on (Vpp=12.7) and 4 on (Vcc=3.3V), dipswitch picture PCB3 3-5-6-8-10-12 on. A19 ( Jp2 pin4) connected to adapter connector pin 7 (A19), A20 (Jp2 pin5) connected to adapter connector pin 5 (A20). T07 jumpers as shown on adapter for 28Fx00, Jp open=3.6V closed.

HY29F040

By: netstal1 - 2004-12-06 18:39:37

hi i was able to id device says Hynis(Hyundai)   and read chip with ok results but when i try to erase it says erased be timeout and when do blank test is not empty i cant write it any ideas


im using sivava board

Re: Please help 39Vf160

By: EZo - 2004-12-04 16:57:06

I didn't get success on 39VF160 with PCB3b and 16bit sivava , read here. Try mod mentioned here, it relates to A9 level.

Please help 39Vf160

By: shadowkhan - 2004-12-04 15:23:17

Hi friends
I have purchased Willem programmer PCB3B/35 from sivava
I have programmed many TSOP48 chips on it using TSOP48 8/16 bit adapter & also 16bit adapter purchased from sivava.
I cannot get ID of SST39VF160 on 16bit adapter.On 8/16 bit adapter i can get ID but cannot erase & program.
On 16 bit adapter i can get if i connect VPP (J3)jumper to A18 on programmer
MFG ID..........BFBF
DEVICE ID....8282
The orognal MFG ID is BF & device ID is 2782
It is not software problem i have used all available s/w.
It is not hardware problem i have checked.
I have many new SST39VF160 chips getting same problem for all.
Please help me to solve this problem.
Thanks in advance.

Re: results with AM29DL323GT

By: netstal1 - 2004-11-29 01:52:13

thanks for reply
i got newer sivava board and im using .98c soft

Re: 39vf800a

By: EZo - 2004-11-13 18:01:27

Mentioned adapter cannot be used. 16bit sivava flash adapter T01/T07 required for w3.0

Re: programing the 28f320

By: EZo - 2004-11-12 15:09:03

Schould work on tsop48d2(d1)/ezoflash+ and sivava 16bit flash adapter T01/T07 on willem group programmer. SW 0.97ja (0.9xh1) , selected device flash 16bit, 28F320C3B.
8/16 bit adapter ( for AT49LV1614) cannot be used.

Re: Really lost :-/

By: shadowkhan - 2004-11-10 11:53:32

Alouf   wrote on 11/04/04 at 06:43:12:
Hello people,

I have scoured the forum looking for answer, but alas, there is none
to be found. Since you guys seems to be pretty knowladgeable , i come to   this forum for help

I want to buy myself an EEPROM programmer, mainly to program
motherboard bioses and other electronic appliances EEPROM devices ( DIP and PLCC32 mainly )

I am an old assembler computer programmer, but have very little
knowledge on the working of an EEPROM burner.

After looking on the net for a while, i came out with these 3
products i am interrested in:

1)   The Enhanced Willem EPROM Kit
      http://24.84.94.222/cover.htm ( does not have any schematics, and the part numbers are intentionaly erased )

2) The USB/AC Willem EPROM Programmer Version. PCB3B/PCB3.5
     http://www.sivava.com/Product_A02.htm

3) The Eprom Programmer version 4.0 from this website

Now, i am really confused on what the differences are (besides the
added sockets ). I am interrested in number #1 in the list. But the
item #2 claims outrageous stuff, like 30% faster burning, and software
version 0.98B!! And #3 is a bit expensive for me, and i don't know
what are the improvments of the other 2.

Can you please maybe give me hints on which product will be the best
for my needs?

Please help, i feel totally lost   

Thanks all!


Hi Alouf

As you described here you are intrested in DIP and PLCC32  programming.There is a programmer Willem 4.0
is best to meet your needs.

Re: 39VF160 is not written

By: EZo - 2004-11-06 14:34:28

Really strange.
Programmer PCB3b+ sivavaT01/T07 (16bit adapter), SW0.97ja. Dipswitch 3-5-6-8-10-12 on, J3 2-3 (pin1=Vpp), all pin cable from programmer to adapter. On adapter jumpers according to 29Fx00 picture , removed Jp (open=3.6V). Other jumpers are default.
Can't get ID on SST39VF160 ,response   0xFFFF, 0xFFFF      ???
I can get ID on all range -SST39VF200A, SST39VF400A, SST39LF800A. Write, verify, erase OK on SST39LF800A.
Settings are OK-
- test HW- A19 and A20 on pins 9 and 10 OK.
- chip AM29LV160DB (selected device 16bit 29F160) tested OK (ID, erase, write, verify).
Same 39VF160 chip, same SW, chip reply ID on ezoflash+/tsop48d2 .
Differencies ezoflash+/pcb3b
- less voltage on chip adress/data/command lines .
But ... chip ID I can get with Vcc=5V on ezoflash+. No ID on pcb3b/sivava 16bit adapter with +5V Vcc   ???
- A9 are at the same level as other adress lines .
I don't think that reduced A9 value can affect to ID   
No ideas more at moment    ???

Re: 39VF160 is not written

By: pompous - 2004-11-06 12:16:56

we use Willem EPROM Programmer Version ( PCB3B/PCB3.5 )
TSOP48 LD Socket (A)
Adapter TSOP48 (16bit) bought from sivava.

we do not get any id. it reads without id but it can not erase and write.

if there is something about this problem please help us.

Re: TSOP48 16Bit-Adaptor

By: shadowkhan - 2004-11-06 11:19:23

EZo   wrote on 10/27/04 at 17:29:57:
You can get 16bit flash adapter (T01+T07) from sivava for willem programmer range (3.1, pcb3b,..).
More 16bit adapters are available for ezoflash+, info published for tsop48d1/d2. Designed and verified are now 16 bit adapters tsop40d1 (verified SST39VF100,M29F102B), ssop56b1 (verified AM29BL802C), tsop56b1(verified TE28F160S5)

Hi EZo
There is also a need for (EZoflash+ & adapters) shop.   Ofcourse Ezoflash+ is more simple & easy in its use because of there is no switching on its board.
I have Willem programmer Ver3.1 ATH.The 16bit flash adapter avalible (T01+T07) from sivava.I do not know it will be compatible with my programer or not?

Re: 39VF160 is not written

By: EZo - 2004-11-05 21:50:26

Chip doesn't have specific protection function. SST39VF160 is tested on ezoflash+ and tsop48d2. File chip_test x.xls is test results only on ezoflash+ and generally same chips schould work on other willem group programmers (pcb3b, w3.1, w4.0) .
Have you got correct ID response ?
I'll try to recheck chip on pcb3b and sivava 16bit flash adapter, results will be reported.

Re: Really lost :-/

By: willem - 2004-11-04 23:27:52

Well all 3 programmers can do the job, the sivava would need an additional PLCC32 and FW/HUB adapter of course.
Yes I'm bit more expensive but that is because of the global price differences. I don't think the 4.0 programmer (and kit) are priced too high though.I give email support of course and people that fail to make their kit working can send it back to me for checking and repair.


topic made sticky

Really lost :-/, info about different boards

By: Alouf - 2004-11-04 06:43:12

Hello people,

I have scoured the forum looking for answer, but alas, there is none
to be found. Since you guys seems to be pretty knowladgeable , i come to   this forum for help

I want to buy myself an EEPROM programmer, mainly to program
motherboard bioses and other electronic appliances EEPROM devices ( DIP and PLCC32 mainly )

I am an old assembler computer programmer, but have very little
knowledge on the working of an EEPROM burner.

After looking on the net for a while, i came out with these 3
products i am interrested in:

1)   The Enhanced Willem EPROM Kit
      http://24.84.94.222/cover.htm ( does not have any schematics, and the part numbers are intentionaly erased )

2) The USB/AC Willem EPROM Programmer Version. PCB3B/PCB3.5
     http://www.sivava.com/Product_A02.htm

3) The Eprom Programmer version 4.0 from this website

Now, i am really confused on what the differences are (besides the
added sockets ). I am interrested in number #1 in the list. But the
item #2 claims outrageous stuff, like 30% faster burning, and software
version 0.98B!! And #3 is a bit expensive for me, and i don't know
what are the improvments of the other 2.

Can you please maybe give me hints on which product will be the best
for my needs?

Please help, i feel totally lost   

Thanks all!

Re: TSOP48 16Bit-Adaptor

By: EZo - 2004-10-27 17:29:57

You can get 16bit flash adapter (T01+T07) from sivava for willem programmer range (3.1, pcb3b,..).
More 16bit adapters are available for ezoflash+, info published for tsop48d1/d2. Designed and verified are now 16 bit adapters tsop40d1 (verified SST39VF100,M29F102B), ssop56b1 (verified AM29BL802C), tsop56b1(verified TE28F160S5)

Re: PMC Chips

By: EZo - 2004-09-30 02:38:40

Ask FWH/LPC PLCC-32 adapter for w3.1/pcb3b programmer in willem or sivava shops. Docs find here

TE28F800

By: _togo_ - 2004-09-22 03:43:18

This chip reads.....writes....erases.....verifies...fine. Willem programmer with appropriate sivava adapters....the problem is...this chip is sector lockable......and all the icons are there.....but I'm not able to lock/unlock sectors.....any ideas?

Re: Help!!!Willem PCB3,5 don't write Error at 0x10

By: EZo - 2004-09-21 22:16:53

Really I   get partial success . 28F800B3T was tested on PCB3b and sivava 16 bit adapter set. On removed jumper (vcc=3.6) I was able get ID and erase, on programming - Vpp error. Installed jumper (Vcc=5) programming runs, but errors appears. Another B3T was programmed OK on +5V. It is a bit of risk to apply 5v on 3.3 V devices, may damage chip or cause errors.
What is Vcc value in your tests (jumper installed or removed)? Currently I do not have 28F160C3T and can't check. I'll try to check this issue, may be problem exist.
Further I will comment more my ezoflash+/tsop48d2 combination. More tests are done on it, different chips 800/160 B3/C3 are verified OK with Vcc=Vpp=3.6V

Please help TSOP48 adaptor

By: shadowkhan - 2004-09-21 17:36:33

Dear Willem & members
I have made Willem eprom programmer ATH ver 3.1.
I am very thankful to all the persons for their effort of (Willem eprom programmer ATH ver 3.1 ).
Please help me to build an advance TSOP48 adaptor for read,write & erase(28x800,28x160,29xx800,29xx160,39xx800,39xx160,49xx1614 ).
There are many schemes for tsop48 adaptors avalible on this site.I have purchased ( TSOP48 LD Socket ) item code [T01] from sivava.com
My equipment are
1-Desktop pentium II , os 98se
2-Willem eprom programmer ATH ver 3.1  (Hardware)
My requirments are
1- latest scheme & pcb diagram of tsop48 adaptor compatible with (Willem eprom programmer ATH ver 3.1)
2- Scheme & pcb design for ( TSOP48 LD Socket ).

Thanks in advance to all the members & moderator.

Help!!!Willem PCB3,5 don't write Error at 0x100000

By: sacho - 2004-09-19 18:19:01

Hello!!!
I use Willem PCB3.5 of sivava and TSOP 32/40/48 adapter 16 bits and can not write or programming bin file.I want programming chip TE28F160 C3T.When verifying chip go 50% Error at 0x100000 Chip=0xFFFF
Bufer = 0x5400
Thanks!!!

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: EZo - 2004-09-12 09:52:14

Seems OK. Better J8 down (Vcc=5V), but no matter for J8, if power is taken from USB.
I do not have pcb3.5/pcb3 HW, and all updates from pcb3b are unknown (USB power, pullup resistors, some changes for 29F040 unprotect, new jumpers,...) .
Selected option pcb3.5 requires specific SW supplied with HW from sivava (0.98b).
Set option pcb3b and apply standard (SW 0.97g, 0.97ja) !
Read values 04 usually relates to OE problem (no read from flash, D00..D03 command is read from 4503)
--
ST Micro M29W160 is equal to 29LV160. Replacing chips note use the same boot sector (top T or bottom B)

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: EZo - 2004-09-11 07:18:00

No info to give you more recomendations. You have chips 29F040, 29F800, 29LV320, full set of sivava tsop adapters. Is it one chip fully working - ID, erase, write (other file, not existing in chip before), verify, read ?

Quote:
i read de tsop and erase the tsop and give me the correct id AMD but i can't write.say error.

Read - check buffer, is there any content.
Erase - finished it by...DQ7, is blank check OK ?
ID - what is the ID response?
Write- is still running 99% and error at 00000, chip 00, buffer 03. Run read and check buffer- what changes appeared (before write- FF, after write - all 00 or ....)
Posting results inform SW version, selected device, used adapter, tested chip. I can't follow your tests sequence.
No suggestions available on response don't work only.
Run test H/W and check all signals on/off on dip32 and 8pin contacts.
Run test H/W with inserted base adapter and programmer jumpers according to your chip . Check all signals on 2x24 adapter pins. Can't recognize printed info on adapter PCB, get according chip datasheet (am29LV320), 2x24 pins have chip numbering sequence (adapter with tsop48 socket has direct 1:1 pins allocation, transfer) . Note on 8/16 bit adapter all adress are shifted- for example programmer adress A19 is connected to chip (adapter) A18.

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: mac4lyfe2 - 2004-09-10 10:52:09

EZo   wrote on 09/10/04 at 07:01:29:
Which adapter really do you have T07 or T08, links are come posts before in topic ?
Do you use 8wire cable, is it correct?
Try on selected 16bit MBM29LV160 ?
More comments later. Post answers.


I have the T07   
http://www.sivava.com/image_T07.htm

I tried MBM29LV160 and it won't ID (well the last 2 bits are correct) C2 and 49
Manufacture= 0x00C2 [----]
Device code= 0x2249

Seems to not like the 0x00 and the 0x22 for ID

I tried the AM29F016 which uses the tsop40B but i used the 16 bit tsop 48 adapter and it IDs correctly and will read and write the first 75% of the chip accurately... but The last part of the chip gets crazy results, probably because those memory areas are incorrect.

Is there any way to extend the 29F040 device select to a larger size? How can i edit the size and checksum and shift pattern adresses. Is there a way of editing the chip values. If I could extend the address size I think it may read and write to the chip.

Thanks for the replies

Re: Newbie Need help

By: mac4lyfe2 - 2004-09-10 06:14:43

I just bought one from sivava but am having problems hopefully yours will work.

You should use the 8/16 bit adapter with the 3V6 pin out (open)
http://www.sivava.com/image_T08.htm
upper right is 3V6 and it should be open...
goto device select and select very last option 29VF/39LF/VF/49LFxxx.... 29LVx00 (8/16 bit) then select 29LV160

Click on Electronic ID icon and it should ID it correctly... If so then you should be able to read, erase and write.

Regards

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: mac4lyfe2 - 2004-09-10 05:54:46

Thanks for the reply,
Here's whats happening. I will use the Macronix chip for example...

If I use the flash 16 bit (LV) right below the "Request Adapter 3.3V"   29Fx00 and select 29F160 it will not get an electronic ID = [----] The manufacture is 0x00C2 and the Device code is 0x2249

However if I select Flash 29/39/49Fxxx... 29Fxxx and select 29F040... It will correctly Id the chip
Manufacture = 0xC2   MXIC (MACRONIX)
Device code = 0x49   MX29LV160B

I can even read and write using the 29F040 device select but obviously the size is not correct. I have tried every combination (pins) imaginable. sivava sent me the tsop adapter but forgot to ship a 8/16 bit adapter, i only have the 16 bit adapter.

The chips are brand new and I have checked (w/microscope) the contacts on the tsop. I get similar results with AM29F800, AM29LV320DT and AM29LV160 chips as well. I can ID them using the 29F040 but not there device select.

Whats wrong??? Do i have a bad programmer ? Is there a way to change the shift & pattern Address so that I can program the chips to the upper addresses (using the 29F040 selected)

I also cannot ID a winbond W49F002 firmware chip.

I've also tried a SST49LF020A chip and it IDs it as SST/ Sanyo but the Device code is blank... Is that normal?

I'm thinking the programmer is bad...

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: EZo - 2004-09-09 23:07:17

Chips Fujitsu 29LV160B and Atmel AT49BV1614 are tested OK (ID,erase,write,verify,read,CFI query for Fujitsu chip) on PCB3B, sivava 16bit adapter, SW 0.97ja, selected devices 16bit MBM29LV160B and 16 bit 29F160.
I do not have 32Mb device, it schould work- only additional adress A20 is used, it is connected correct on adapter and doesn't depends from jumpers. Protected 29LV320 cannot be erased and programmed on 16 bit adapter.

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: EZo - 2004-09-09 06:32:38

+12V on RST unavailable for 16 bit adapter.
+12V on RST for 8/16 bit adapter- same jumper settings and activate SW option temporary sector unprotect. To be sure on it, remove socket adapter, run test H/W (keep jumpers and dip switch as they are), activate Vpp and check voltage on basic adapter Vpp pin.
I can't comment PCB modify (wire). If your programmer runs with 29F800 no need attention on that. More important check correct 8pin wire cable location, chip legs quality, location in TSOP socket. Important to get ID.
> mack4life2
-you are able program chips on tsop48 16 bit adapter, only temporary unlock unavailable
-use SW 0.97ja or 0.9xh1 only, set device flash16bit 29Fxxx group (or 29LVxxx with equal density)
- 4.3V on adress are OK
- important to get correct ID, check flash legs, clean them
- you can't modify adapter, purchase new 8/16 adapter
I try to retest some chips on PCB3b and sivava adapters and come back if problems found. From my records AT49BV1614 and M29W800 are tested OK on sivava 8/16 bit adapters. I try them on 16bit adapter.

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: mac4lyfe2 - 2004-09-09 02:56:57

I am having problems with chips (AM29F800 and AM29LV320DT and MX29LV160BTC) I bought the willem from sivava as well but they forgot to put the 8/16 bit adapter in the tsop 48 kit. I only have the 16 bit adapter.

my problem is that I can't ID these chips at (8/16 bit) cause I don't have the 8/16 bit adapter and when I use the 16 bit adapter it won't ID them using there chip selection... BUT if I choose 29F040, I can ID all 3 chips and can read up to that address and have been able to write (not completely and most of the time errors) but I am at a standstill for what settings I need to use for each chip.

I also did a HW test and Vpp =12.98 Vcc=4.97 and the Address lines were all 4.33 not 5V could this be a problem?

Can I read/erase/write using the 16 bit adapter only? What device settings would I use for the 3 above chips? I've seemed to have tried every device setting but none ID correctly outside of the 29F040 (and a couple others not equal to the exact chip)

Is there a way to create a 8/16 bit adapter with the 16 bit adapter? (maybe removing the buffer chips (245's and 573 from the tsop 48 16 bit board)?

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: mazingerpr - 2004-09-09 00:19:34

i set the adapter to 29Fx00 and connect the 8 pins in the j4.i Separate one jumper- named open = +3.6v and use the 8/16 bits adapter with the 0.97g and select 3.3V adapter > 29LVxx0 8/16bit > 29LV320 but don't read the tsop.please check this photo and let me know if i need to put this small piece of wire in my willem programmer because i check the programmer and don't have this wire.this is the picture.
http://www.sivava.com/image_back_cover.htm
and this is the picture of my adapters.
http://www.sivava.com/image_T07.htm
http://www.sivava.com/image_T08.htm
i check in this forum the manuals and say for program 29LV320 use A19,A20 and A21 but don't work.

Re: Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: EZo - 2004-09-08 19:59:10

For sivava T adapters- follow main jumpers picture, printed on PCB, set 29Fx00 for both your chips. Separate one jumper- named open= +3.6v, remove it for LV devices. Use cable to connect 8 pin strip headers on programmer and on adapter.
You can use SW 0.97g (for 8/16bit adapter), select 3.3V adapter > 29LVxx0 8/16bit > 29LV320

Re: what hardware and adapters required to program

By: EZo - 2004-09-08 18:28:26

Looking for different tsop chip visit sivava shop for T10 or T30 adapter set.

Problem with 29LV320 Tsop

By: mazingerpr - 2004-09-06 07:28:07

hello.i whant to know is this tutorial work for setting my Willem EPROM Programmer Version ( PCB3B/PCB3.5 )
http://www.willem.org/eprom.htm
and the other question is when i buy the willem programmer incluided 2 adapters.Adapter TSOP48 (8/16bit) and Adapter TSOP48 (16bit).i use the second with my dish Tsop 29F800 and work .i try the same with the 29LV320 Tsop but say error.this is the
Willem EPROM Programmer that i have.
www.sivava.com
and what software i need.i try with this 2 software version.0.98B and 0.97ja.let me know what can i do.  ???  ???

Re: M29F080A Meritec TSOP

By: EZo - 2004-08-21 12:52:04

TSOP-40 adapter required. Look left in Eprom programmer shop from Willem . New kind of TSOP adapters available from sivava.

Re: Support for Intel 28F200 FLASH??

By: EZo - 2004-08-19 07:26:54

Look for psop44-dip32 adapter in willem shop.
Another source- adapter B09 in www.sivava.com.

Re: what the difference

By: EZo - 2004-08-11 17:48:39

Note, programmer PCB3B/3.5 is not the same Enhanced.
   PCB3B/3.5 is SW author design - USB connector added, 29F040 unprotect HW changes, selectable 2 HW modes PCB3B and PCB3.5. Last option includes HW changes too and specific SW is required (0.98b). Homepage www.sivava.com
   Enhanced Willem has   USB adapter (only), specific Vpp/eprom chip selection; added plcc32, fwh/lpc plcc32 and dip40(i28f002) onboard sockets. Info on nonsupported 16k/32k chips (only these chips require 21 and 25V) , USB adapter (how to get Vcc>5V for other eproms ? ), sanded chips and missing docs - Is it worth it ?   Homepage bios007.com/english/ ; shop in e-bay and www.mcumall.com ; somewhere good online manual is available (stored link is not accessable today)

Re: Need help!!! I can not program any flash memor

By: EZo - 2004-08-09 05:48:30

Seems comercially 16bit flash adapter for pcb3b/w3.1/ATH3.1 is available only from www.sivava.com - adapters T01+T07 or buy full set.
16 bit chips including both from Nokia (LH28F800BGHE-TL, TE28F800C3B) are tested on ezoflash+ and tsop48d1/tsop48d2. Schematic in basic  is equal for sivava and tsop48d2, you can find EZo downloads tsop48d1 package. tsop48d2 has only extra jumpers to support 39SF160 and 8/16 devices additionally.
EZoFlash+ and tsop48d2 build yourself.

Re: Properly using my Willem

By: calibx77 - 2004-08-02 19:13:56

Bird333 I bought a programmer from sivava it is supposed to be V35B but they did not send a cd with the software, they claim to have rev.98 what version did they send you? Tried e-mailing them with request for the software but they keep telling me what program to use on the cd. if it is not too much to ask could you send it to me? I will provide e-mail addy if you are interested.
thanks

Re: Agreed Settings for 27c160 and 27c801

By: Argyle - 2004-07-28 19:29:55

Help!

I just got a sivava programmer (PCB 3.5) and I am having trouble programming these two devices (ST M27C801 and ST M27C160)...

I have tested a few other devices (27C1024, 29F040) and the programmer appears to work fine with those chips.  Unfortunately I really bought the thing to program 27C160's so I'd really like to get this working...:)

I've tried the sivava supplied 0.98b software, as well as the 0.97ja and 0.97j versions from here (with the PCB in "3B" mode)...

When I program the 27C801, it appears to program, but fails on verification.  When I read the chip back in, it appears to be all zeroes with 4's sprinkled in there.  I don't have an already written 27C801 to verify that reading the chip is working correctly.

On the 27C160, it bombs out on the first byte.  It usually writes a 4 or a 6 instead of the value it's trying to write. I've tried both lower and higher values of tWp and tWc but it doesn't seem to help.  I have a programmed 27C160 (but unfortunately I do not have the contents already dumped in a file on my PC)...when I read it, it looks correct, but when I try to verify that the chip and the buffer are the same, it bombs out,  usually at the same address (around 0x136d69, for instance, or 0x121574)...if I tweak the tWp and tWc values, I get slightly different values around those addresses.

Has anyone gotten a programmer from sivava and gotten either of these two chips to program correctly?  Let me know...thanks :)

Edit: More info about my system, in case it helps...

I'm using a modern notebook (Pentium-M) running WinXP Home, parallel port is in bidirectional mode (ECP disabled), USB power for the programmer, going to try an external power supply next.  I seem to recall the data sheet saying that the supply voltage needs to be 6V when programming the 27C160, could this be the problem?

Re: Which Programmer do I buy????

By: atjw - 2004-07-21 10:36:50

The easiest part is programing your own chip with programmer - it takes only about 10 sec to do that.  
Willem programmer and software are good enough for that purpose - as Willem told.

Moates has also (made for f-bodies) hardware, software and enpty chips for that purpose http://www.moates.net/ . It's litle expensive but good product with cover box.

Btw. have you visited in Sivavas page: http://www.sivava.com/ ?  He has also programmer (Willem EPROM Programmer Version  PCB3B/PCB3.5 ) which use the power supply from a USB port - so you dont need AC Adapter at all. Price is low and delivering is reliable and deliverytime is often faster than he promise.

Before that you have to make your own binary file. It is the hardest part. Ok - it isn't hard at all if you know about car tuning - but I think that "reading skill" is not enough.
Maby the better way to start this, would be that you take original bin file (from Moates site) and start modifying it.  There are tens of those kind of files - you only have to find right for your engine.
To read / modify bin file you need also "ECU file" and  software  for doing that.  You'll find good software (Tunerpro) from:http://tunerpro.markmansur.com/.

Ok- that was my "fast basic". I recommend, that you go to thirdgen first:
http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/promintro.shtml

There are "tons" of good tips and links for starting your own tuning project.

As one wise quy said "If I sold you a screwdriver and you poked someone's eye out, would I be liable? "  
So,  Is it risk or not to start ECU tuning, depends about your own skils.  Lucky us, those f-body engines are cheap  

Re: Adater to Tsop Intel E28F004BVT120

By: Carlos_Avila - 2004-07-07 13:55:10

Hi Dennis
Thank you for the datasheet. The pinouts is the same I 've got before. I 've been sent some e-mails to sivava about the T03 adapter but no reply.
Carlos Avila

Re: Adater to Tsop Intel E28F004BVT120

By: EZo - 2004-07-06 18:28:18

You can use T01/T05 (tsop40a) adapters from sivava. Chips E28F004BXT and TE28F004BVB are tested with mentioned adapters on PCB3B.
Universal adapter T01 (with tsop48 socket) can be replaced with T03 (with chip soldering). Seems latest is removed from sivava offer.
Link to chip datasheet you can find here

Re: Adater to Tsop Intel E28F004BVT120

By: Carlos_Avila - 2004-07-06 15:50:41

Hi Dennis
I have analised these two adapters before, but I 'm afraid of the signals at the 32 dip plugs don 't fit to the willem programer zif socket, maybe I have to project a sub adapter in order to corect the wires. I 'm not sure about the E28F004BBVT120 pinout, I 'm trying to download the datasheet but it have been hard to locate a good one.
At http://www.sivava.com I have found some adapter which one could solder the part direct to them, but none of them to the TSOP 40 parts.
Thaks for the reply
Carlos Avila

Re: Noobie trying to program 27c160 ...other chips

By: willem - 2004-06-07 23:32:07

I don't know how the connection with sivava adapter is organised of course but you have to connect A19 and A20 for this chip. Try to set tWP and tWC lower and if that doesn't work higher.
Also see earlier discussions about 27C160 programming on the forum.
I've tested a lot with the ST M27C160 and had not much problems with this chip, but it seems to be more critical then 8 bit 27Cxxx chips.

Properly using my Willem

By: Bird333 - 2004-06-02 12:53:52

I have the programmer from sivava.  I am just wondering is it safe to switch all the various jumpers around with power applied to the board?  Also, all my LED's are red.  What LED values do I need to get if I want to change these out?

thanks!

Re: Please help me to build an programmer

By: EZo - 2004-05-27 15:07:28

You can buy willem 3.1 + msc51 adapter in Willem shop, pcb3+ and msc51 adapter in www.sivava.com
You can build -
- ezoflash+ and adapters dip40a1 , plcc44a1; docs find in EZo downloads.
-  ATH3.1 and msc51 adapter; docs (docv3.1s,..) find in more downloads.
- pcb3b and msc 51 adapter, doc's in more downloads and http://mpu51.tripod.com/eprom/eprom.html
Your mentioned chips are tested on ezoflash+

Re: voltage on ziff

By: EZo - 2004-05-15 17:33:43

I wait info from paul362 (personal message) what adapter he has. Known 16bit flash adapter for willem HW (www.sivava.com) has generally equal schematic to tsop48d2 for ezoflash+. Your target adapter with hardware control (RY/BY#) , full word access and controlled CE line cannot be used or adapted to willem group programmers. What is your plans with such adapter ?

Re: setting jumper A19 on PCB3B?

By: willem - 2004-04-15 22:17:36

You have to connect the higher address lines, not set a jumper. I can't give advice or support for the sivava adapters or boards.

setting jumper A19 on PCB3B?

By: christofer - 2004-04-15 22:06:11

Hi,

After a successful reading and writing a 29f400 chip. I tried the 29f800...   That did not go well. I could read data from the chip using the 0.98a software. The software says ok, but I can I really trust this if my jumper settings is wrong?

After doing some reading I have realized that I probably should set the A19 jumper on my PCB3B programmer but I can not figure out how.   (I bought programmer and adapters at sivava.com) Should I use the supplied flat-cable to connect the adapter with the programmer?

Thankful for any help!

//Christofer

Re: 49lv1614 on pcb3

By: willem - 2004-04-08 21:33:19

Sorry I can't give support for the sivava adapter.

Re: 49lv1614 on pcb3

By: kountzero - 2004-04-08 16:57:32

Dip packages are programing fine, do i have to make the 1n4007 mod to get the vcc down to 4.25, its outputing at around 5.45 at the moment. Thats too high for the protection diodes in the chip yes?

Not sure what mod im suposed to do on the 16bit adaptor as it is the one from sivava.com too and layout is nothing like yours. You mention else where that i should short a component on the adapter, is this true for the sivava version, if so which?

49lv1614 on pcb3

By: kountzero - 2004-04-06 00:24:26

Having no luck writing the above using the pcb3 willem from sivava, can id and read if i use mbm29lv160 but seems not to erase as empty check says not.

using variations of the software from g thru to i+ and psu's from 11.5 to 18v ive manged to get its to stick at 0% or give a

0x000000   chip =   0x07d1   buffer =0x0dd1 error

*edit*

Can read a chip, write back to it and verify but when i clear the buffer and load a different hex it wont prog.
Can fill the buffer with FF and write to chip but not any other buffer clear option.

ps using windows 98 now and no change from above

~kZ~

Re: 39VF160 Programming

By: dedwards180 - 2004-03-24 01:14:04

I've come to the conclusion that there is a problem with the software regarding the programming algorithm for this chip.

I have both a 16bit and 8/16bit adaptor from sivava (thanks for their help), I also have the 16bit code (0x97xh?) and 0.98a (8/16bit code)

I can program both 29LV160D & AM29DL323 using both adaptors without any problems.

I have also managed to program the AM29LV160D using the SST39VF160 settings on a 16 bit socket

It's got me stumped, as I cannot identify any logical difference between the 29LV160D and the 39VF160, other than the fact that the VF160 does not support byte mode

My guess, at what is going on at the moment, is either:

a, The programming algorithm does not generate the unlock sequence required for the vf160 in 16bit mode (i have seen devices that require extended 0x5555/0xaaaa patterns on the address bus)

b, The adaptor is sending a byte pulse, which is causing the AMD parts to operate in byte mode


I should also note that I've managed to read part of the SST's device ID in 8 bit mode, thus I'm happy that the chips are OK

Hope this helps

Dave

Re: te28f800 reading.

By: EZo - 2004-03-23 22:43:04

Chip requires 16bit TSOP-48 flash adapter and software 0.9xh1 . Adapter for willem programmer can be found  on www.sivava.com page or ask  to Willemshop.
Chip is tested on EZoFlash+ and tsop48d1/d2 adapters.

Re: Problem with my Programmer

By: dirk - 2004-02-18 19:38:58

Hi Peter,

please think about lowering the VDD at the Willem Programmer, see my first post.

Hopefully the programmer will work with that adapter and your device.

Hmm isn't one of the dbox2 flashes. The dbox2 is also pretty good for flashing that devices, but there is a risk of damaging the PPC.

Just send in front of ordering a mail to sivava, may be they know whether there are problems with the Intel devices

Re: Problem with my Programmer

By: dirk - 2004-02-17 19:31:31

No this one will only work with 16Bit Flash that are programmable in the Byte Mode. Unfortunately the TE28F320 only supports the Word mode. At this device there is no #BYTE Input.

At Willem please correct me if i am wrong.

You have to build or buy another one Willem is developing one and there is also one at sivava.com.
T07 in combination T01.

But with the  orignal programmer you are still driving the adress lines with 5V and they are not specified as a 5V tolerant input.

Intel TE28F160 (C3BD70) Settings.

By: n0risc - 2004-02-10 15:38:22

http://www.intel.com/design/flcomp/datashts/29064517.pdf  <datasheet>
Willem EPROM Programmer PCB3B+
http://www.sivava.com/image_T01.htm <48LD TSOP Zif>
http://www.sivava.com/image_T07.htm <16bit Header>

PSU 12Vdc @ 900mA

Currently no scheme's for this boot/flashrom , using AMD29F160 scheme since its the closest to Intel Specs.  

Are there any updated schemes or any manual functions i can perform to at least read this bootrom?  I have dumped the rom twice, but seems as if the data isn't correct.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance,

n0risc

Re: All has gone wrong. Please help.

By: willem - 2004-02-02 23:06:43

First of all: this site has nothing to do with Sivava, it's just one of the many (small) companies that produces and sells PCB3B version programmers.I've checked out their site a few times and was amazed by the extremely low prizes.I don't see how they can make a profit this way.Their programmer board is very low cost single sided with wire bridges, that can work ok but is mechanical less reliable.
Anyway about the software: version 'G' is stable and works under XP, as beavercleaver writes drivers such as printer and TWAIN can be a problem.A good solution would be to use an old system like a Pentium 1 and use it for the programmer only this has also the advantage that other programs won't interfere critical timings.
About the supply , connection,etc. you can read about that here http://www.willem.org/eprom.htm of course.PCB3B needs about 8 volts.You could have know that: the 7805 regulator is connected to the power input.It's also in the schematic diagram.
All DIP en jumpers settings are shown in the program.
I won't do a PDF with pictures like how to connect the power supply or how to select a memory device, if you can't figure that out maybe this programmer is not for you.
Don't worry about killing your programmer it's probably still ok and you can always simple replace the chips of course, all are cheap standard parts.

Re: All has gone wrong. Please help.

By: Marcel - 2004-02-02 22:47:07

Ben and Rich,

I do agree with you that there's a lack of documentation on this programmer. I'm working on a document but, as many others, I don't have too much time to do this. The problem is that there are too many different variants of the programmer. The basic principle is the same for all programmers, but not all functions are the same. For instance the sivava PCB3 version you've got uses an another power supply than the Willem. Just hook up the 9 Volt supply and you're OK.
The Willem uses 78xx regulators which need the higher power supply. The PCB3 generates all programming voltages from the 9V power supply. When you connect the programmer to the LPT-port without starting the software and all LED's go on you  have no damage to the programmer.
In the programming software there's a label "Willem" or "PCB3", where you can swap the DIP-switches, so they are oriented the right way.
Next is to get the DLPORTIO drivers installed properly to get rid of the error messages. There is a topic on that in the manual section (it's not that bad as you wrote.....).
I don't know how that works under XP, I'm only using NT4, WIN2000 and WIN '98SE here. It should work, but there could be a problem when printers are installed. Try installing a fax-printer, which doesn't use the LPT-port, that should work if you make it the default printer.

Good programming,

Marcel

All has gone wrong. Please help.

By: MCSEBOT - 2004-02-01 22:13:06

I have a ready made sivava version PCB3B+ programmer. I purchased it along with the [ B06 ] adapter so I can burn 27C160s. The burner came with a CD but the CD has nothing but a bunch of web sites with dead links on it. No manual and No program.
The adaptor came with what looks to be a 15 pin ribbon cable. I have no clue what this is used for. There is an external power connector that was not mentioned on their site at all. I wrote to them asking what that connector was for and they informed me that I needed to get my own 9v DC supply for it. I did so. I found on this site some software that I believe is supposed to work with this burner “EpromM51.exe”. When I run it I get a message saying “Could not open the DriverLINX driver.” I’m running Windows XP Pro. I click ok on that window and then it says “Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000.” I then click ok on that and the program opens but can do nothing. Every time I try to tell it to do something I get an error about the address. I also asked on this news form about the external power hookup and was informed that it should be 12 to 22V DC. I just hooked up a power supply that reads “Output DC16v 2.4ma” and I got SMOKE poring from the board. The row of toggle switches are numbered the opposing direction from what the EpromM51 shows on that screen and I don’t know how to set them. I have an older ASI EPROM programmer that has worked perfectly for years but is not able to accommodate 27C160s.

I don’t know what power to hook up externally.
I don’t know how to configure the switches or jumpers.
I don’t know how to make the program run without errors.
I don’t know if I need to use the ribbon cable with the adaptor.
I don’t know if the ribbon cable should have a twist in it or not. What's pin 1 on either the adaptor or the main PCB?
I don’t know if I have now killed my burner.

The lack of information (MANUELS) for this product is amazing. There’s a link on the left side of this site that says manuals but there is actually No manuals listed there.

I’m beyond frustrated with this, and it has NOTHING to do with the lack of electronic knowledge. It seems to me to be mind boggling that everyone is just guessing as to what the external power should be.

I put brochures and ads together for a living. If I knew how, and had the information on how to make this programmer work I would put together a real nice PDF manual so others would not end up as confused as I am.

Can someone please help me?
NOTE: I put the 9v power supply back in and the lights still light up. I hope no other damage was done.

~Ben ???

What am I missing? POWER?

By: MCSEBOT - 2004-01-07 02:12:16

Hello. I purchased a sivava (Willem EPROM Programmer Version PCB3B+) from Thailand. I didn’t have the time to build one and there price of 40 USD seem very reasonable. I received it today and whenever I try to do anything with it using Latest version of the software 0.97G I get a message saying “Hardware Error : Check Power & connection”. I then looked at the PCB and found a spot to plug in an external power supply. It didn’t come with any external power supply and I looked all over their web-site and found no mention of an external power source. After looking on the willem.org site I see that the pictures show an external power hookup also but again, I can find no reference to such a source or what the supply should be. Does anyone know what the external power source should be and would it be the same for my sivava Version PCB3B+?

Thank you,
~Ben

Re: 5.0 or 5.5 pro version?

By: HansO - 2000-01-01 19:59:23

alfsentra wrote on Yesterday at 15:38:26:
Hi!

I'm looking for buy a new programmer for my ECU (Engine control unit) 27SF512 chips. I saw the willem 5.0 version but i found the 5.5 pro version. What is the best? My PC have windows vista and my other computer have XP. I saw a topic on a tuner forum, the user said "Willems programmer not work with Windows Vista". It's true? I'm new on this...   

Thanks!


The software for the parallel Willem programmers is quite old. No updates for years. So if it works with more recent operating systems, 64 bit e.g. is not sure.
Even the more recent version (on sivava.com, for 4.5) is not for Vista.

So if you are looking for a solution with more future (OS and hardware like USB) , look at mcumall.com GQ-X4 programmer.